Synopsis
An interview style podcast discussing how to be a transformative educational leader in the K-12 setting.
Episodes
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School Improvement Through Integrated Special Education with Dr. Kate Anderson Foley
08/04/2025 Duration: 26minIn this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Dr. Kate Anderson Foley, founder and CEO of the Education Policy and Practice Group. They discuss the integral role of special education in school improvement, the double helix approach to support systems, and the importance of tailoring instruction to student needs. Dr. Foley shares insights on the necessity of breaking down silos in education and promoting a student-centered approach that prepares learners for adult life.Tight instruction specifically for special education students. Double HelixDesigning lessons that are comprehensively situating the adults and students.Almost half a million students are identified as special education. Ban the Tiers! Nimble and responsive instruction. Not working in isolation anymore. Double Helix as a replacement for the RTI/MTSSStrength-based system - foundation of school improvement process. High expectations of staff. Accountability is measured by evidence of impact. Data that is used to inform and adjust. Shared accountability.
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Future Serious School with Will Richardson
30/03/2025 Duration: 25minIn this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Will Richardson, a veteran in the educational field for over 30 years. The discussion covers Will's new educational cohort initiatives, his manifesto addressing the need for educational reform in chaotic times, the role of politics in education, and the significance of long-term thinking for future generations. They delve into the necessity of reshaping educational goals to foster relationships and prepare students for a complex future.Constant Evolving, every five or so years. Three C’s - Complexity, Chaos, and CollapseThe ManifestoWill’s SubstackThere is still common ground here regardless of who is in political power.What do you want to still exist in 50 years? We can go to our school communities and just ask to have a chat. Parents are the fundamental educators in a child’s life. Jethro on StewardshipWhat are we doing for our grandchildren? It’s personal work first. Soul work before school work. Out of relation with each other and out of relation with other living
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Creating Equitable Classrooms with Mike Cronley
23/03/2025 Duration: 18minIn this episode, host Jethro Jones interviews Mike Cronley, founder and CEO of Class Composer, about how his software helps create equitable classrooms. They discuss the challenges faced by educators in balancing class compositions and how Class Composer addresses these issues.Getting the right kids in the right places in elementary schoolFocus on behavior and then start overloading based on other characteristics. Rarely changed once the school year starts. Classroom imbalance can impact the school for much longer than just the school year. Teachers are happy with the output. People weren’t starters but they make an impact. About Mike CronleyWhile some big ideas are born in the boardroom, others are born in the lunchroom. In his 12 years teaching third grade near Denver, Colorado, Mike shared the frustrations of many colleagues enduring inequitable classes – for example, classes having an imbalance of low readers or students with challenging behavior. These imbalances weren’t surprising, given the student pla
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Streamlining Feedback to Teachers with Observation Co-Pilot with Adam Geller
16/03/2025 Duration: 22minIn this episode, Jethro Jones welcomes back Adam Geller, the founder and CEO of Edthena. They discuss the new Observation Copilot tool, designed to streamline principals' feedback processes for teachers, and delve into the challenges and solutions regarding teacher observations. Adam shares insights on how this innovative tool bridges the gap, saving valuable time for principals while maintaining meaningful and timely feedback for teachers.Observation copilot. Streamlining feedback to teachers Where are your pain points in observing teachers. Making sure chickenscratch notes turn into valuable prose and you can generate valuable ideas.Quick turnaround time - Observe today and get feedback today. How is streamlining the observation process transformativeHuman powered notes from the principal. Focus is on reorganizing, not on filling in blanks. Computer’s job is to show the evidence that a principal inputs. System to help a principal make a first draft. This service is free for anyone to use spring 2025. observ
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Big Impact Mixer
09/03/2025 Duration: 23minIn this episode, Jethro Jones introduces the Big Impact Mixer, where innovative minds gather to share and implement impactful ideas. Jethro discusses his approach of small, manageable experiments aimed at making significant changes and provides insights into some of his personal experiments, including supplements, workout routines, and productivity methods. He encourages listeners to join the mixer and his SchoolX Beta book study for collaborative growth and development. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments
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From Conflict to Collaboration with Dr. Robert Feirsen and Dr Seth Weitzman - From the Vault
02/03/2025 Duration: 42minThis episode is a special From the Vault. In this episode, we talk with Dr. Robert Feirsen and Dr. Seth Weitzman about their new book From Conflict to Collaboration: A School Leader’s Guide to Unleashing Conflict’s Problem-Solving Power.We talk about how to avoid conflict, the three A’s to approach conflict, and much more.About the GuestsDr. Robert Feirsen is currently an associate professor and coordinator of the Educational Leadership Program at Manhattanville College. Previously, he was assistant professor and chair of the Education Department at the New York Institute of Technology. A former SAANYS member, Dr. Feirsen enjoyed a distinguished career in P-12 schools. As a school building leader in Westchester and Nassau Counties, he served as an elementary school principal, a middle school assistant principal, and a middle school principal. At the central office level, he served as an assistant superintendent for curriculum and instruction, deputy superintendent, and superintendent of schools. Dr. Feirsen t
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Three Factors that Led to the Mississippi Miracle in Child Literacy with Dr. Trish Stoll
23/02/2025 Duration: 25minIn this episode of the Transformative Principal podcast, we introduce you to Dr. Trish Stoll, a transformative leader who played a pivotal role in the Mississippi Miracle—a remarkable effort to improve child literacy rates in the state. Dr. Stoll will share her insights on how to empower teachers, build their capacity for literacy instruction, and create a culture of learning where all students can thrive. She'll discuss the importance of focusing on teacher capacity, providing ample training and support, and involving teachers in decision-making. Dr. Stoll will also share her thoughts on how principals can be transformative leaders by observing classrooms, learning from students, and creating a culture of continuous improvement. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in improving literacy outcomes for all students.Mississippi MiraclePrior initiativesBarksdale Reading AcademyReading Universe Reading First - Literacy block was protected, pockets not the entire stateLiteracy-Based Promotion Act - 3
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Improving Your School Branding with John Mihalyo
16/02/2025 Duration: 40minSchool is becoming more hyper-localized. Parents’ choice is expanding, and public schools are already having to court new families to choose them, and this is going to become even more important as time goes on. John Mihalyo joins me to discuss how to improve your school’s branding. Your identity and brand is an individualized school decision. How to look at a school from a parent perspectiveWhat is the last parent perspective? If you have a problem with enrollment, retention, and engagement, it might actually be a branding problem. What are your teachers’ elevator pitch? Give them topics of conversation. Give people opportunities to discuss great things happening in your school. Kids who start at your school want to finish at your school! Two ways to look at things: “Tuition is so expensive” and “I’m getting all that for just $X in Tuition? Sign me up!”Word of mouth opportunities. If you are not telling your story effectivelyChaos to alignment to integration! How to be a transformative principal? Ask this qu
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LinkEd Leaders with Mike Caldwell
02/02/2025 Duration: 31minIn this episode, host Jethro Jones chats with Mike Caldwell, the founder of LinkEd Leaders. They discuss the importance of on-demand mentorship for school leaders, the benefits of having an outside perspective, and the significance of creating a brave space for vulnerability and growth. Mike shares insights on the unique challenges faced by principals and the power of peer-to-peer mentoring.Telecoaching for school leadersHelpful to have a detached leaderA place to go and be realSafe space vs. brave spaceBeing vulnerable sometimes leads to being excluded from opportunities. In 30 minutes, you can have affirmation, support, and clear goals for going forward.Retention problem at the school level. ExhausterwhelmulatedNeeds change over time. Power in curiosityUnderstanding Principal TurnoverLinkedLeaders.com We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school distr
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Five Principles of Educator Professionalism with Dr. Nason Lollar
19/01/2025 Duration: 28minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.In this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Dr. Nason Lollar, author of 'The Five Principles of Educator Professionalism'. They discuss the erosion of trust in the education system, the impact of educational fads, and the importance of professional development and teacher morale in rebuilding trust.Chasing fads leads to a lack of trust. COVID exacerbating issues. Technology could be a fad.Take ownership of our own morale. Morale is a personal decision, but admin still have an impact. Negatives vs. Negativity.Damon and I made a commitment to never complain about our leaders. The ways to create a positive culture.Don’t entertain negativity. Looking for problems is easy. Strong collaboration to stay away from negativityIsolation is the enemy of improvement - Richard ElmoreHow to be a Transformative Principal? Get teachers to share where they need support. Listen to them and have empathy. About Nason Lollar:Having served twenty-four years in the f
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How to get 100% of 3rd Graders Proficient in Reading with Dr. Layne Dillard
17/01/2025 Duration: 27minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.In this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Dr. Layne Dillard, an educational leader with over 27 years of experience in transforming schools and empowering leaders. Dr. Dillard shares insights on achieving 100% reading proficiency among third graders, the importance of teaching at grade level, and strategies for effective school improvement.Cast a vision, shoot for the moon, maybe you’ll hit the starsWith 37% special education students. We realized we just changed lives. First state report card was an F. Looking at our “Why” Going to have to do things that are hard for adults and right for kids. Tier 1 at grade level. How can we expect them to be proficient if they never see that content?Every year they don’t see grade level, they’re even further behind. Fill in gaps from last year, then you never get to current year. Look at data like blood work, not personal. Data can feel like we’re blaming people. Data can be used as a weapon. True differ
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Creating Transition Programs that are Beneficial to Students with Disabilities with Joel Lavin
22/12/2024 Duration: 31minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.In this podcast episode, Joel Lavin and Jethro Jones discuss transition services for students with disabilities as they mature out of the K-12 schooling program. We talk about combining CTE and Transition Services to make sure students are prepared for life, independence, self determination, communication, and living on their own. See Joel’s previous interview on Transformative Principal episodes 258 and 259.Education and Training, Employment, Independence, self determination and communication, planning for your future.Transition Vision Project. Including General Ed and CTE programs.Visioning process. The pathway process. North Star, positive and possible, enroll, strongerWhy is CTE and Transition services so important for working together? Career Technical Education.Sometimes kids needing services in their IEP gets in the way of their opportunities to have more work experiences. CTE: FutureBuildUnified Sports and other unified programs - i
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Creating Impact with from Your Vision with Dr. Sandy Breece
15/12/2024 Duration: 19minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.In this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Dr. Sandy Breece, founder and superintendent of Telesis Center for Learning Incorporated. They discuss Dr. Breece's journey starting a school before the concept of charter schools existed, her commitment to small class sizes and individualized instruction, and her advice for those looking to start their own schools today. They also delve into the power of community and the importance of having a clear vision.Charter schools didn’t start until 1994, when the school was three years old. The community needed choice. Small class sizes.Individualization for everyone. Advice for starting your own school. Don’t wait, just do it! Find communityIgnore the naysayers. Reach out to community members individually. Power of Community bookAdvice for funding schools. How to be a transformative principal - Call Sandy. About Dr. Sandy Breece:Dr. Sandy Breece is the Founder and Superintendent of Telesis Center for Lear
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How Kahoot! Is Changing the Game with Meira Koponen
08/12/2024 Duration: 37minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.In this episode, Jethro Jones interviews Meira Koponen, a learning designer at Kahoot. They discuss the importance of game-based learning, the integration of AI to enhance classroom experiences, and innovative approaches to make learning more inclusive and engaging. Meira shares her experiences from Finland, her passion for education, and some exciting new features of Kahoot that support both teachers and students.Meira Koponen is a Pedagogy and Didactics Manager (Learning Designer) at Kahoot!See previous interviews about education in Finland with Pirjo Suhonen: Episode 183, and Episode 184What a learning designer at Kahoot! does. Testing with teachers.Things must be designed in such a way that teachers can createAI Creator in Kahoot!On being the last place all the time.Team, classroom collaborativePlaying at your own speed and level.Self-paced, different goal, Being part of a communityKahootopia - Learning portfolioLearning doesn’t happen
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Innovative Strategies for Navigating School Leadership Roadblocks with Marcela Andres
01/12/2024 Duration: 41minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.Public Benefit CorporationsBenefit of school leadersSchool is nestled within a communityBeing authentic in who they are so they can show up authentically. Things happen for a reason. Breaking inappropriate rulesTruth vs. truthTheory of Development Bronfenbrenner, U. (1977). Toward an experimental ecology of human development. American Psychologist, 32(7), 513–531. https://doi.org/10.1037/0003-066X.32.7.513How to be a transformative principal? Be yourselfAbout Marcela AndrésMarcela Andrés, a visionary leader in education and the President and CEO of designEDengagement, PBC. Marcela has dedicated her career to creating culturally responsive strategies that foster strong relationships between educators, families, and communities. She’s also the author of Purposeful Educator Connections: Five Principles to Strengthen Relationships with Students, a transformative guide that offers practical strategies to help educators deepen their connections w
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What We Show Them with Kevin Stoller Transformative Principal 639
24/11/2024 Duration: 35minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.Kevin would bring a deep passion and eagerness to discuss the impact of our latest project, the docuseries "What We Show Them" with the goal to engage your audience in a vital conversation about the future of learning, inspiring positive change in education through the power of media. DO I feel safe in this school? Sign - All visitors need to report to main officeSafety is the basic issue of a school. Docuseries: What we Show ThemSecond Class Foundation - Improve the stories about education through the use of media. Start with the problemGood stories - Bring in the community Entertainment mattersFragmentation of schools is happening at an accelerated rate.Social interactionsHow did the vote turn out? About Kevin Stoller:The Better Learning Podcast is hosted by Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve and author of Creating Better Learning Environments. The podcast is also associated with other organizations that are focused on improving education
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The Power of ICU with Garett Cook
17/11/2024 Duration: 56minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.The Power of ICU - focuses on giving kids what they need when they need it. Bringing it all back to Tier 1. ICU MenuChanging language - how can I help you, what can I do for you? Lifeguards - 7 LifeguardsICU time (Advisory/WIN/RTI time)9 departments - every subject is involved and every subject matters. 35 minute window - walk around helping students. Love beeps. About 75 students per teacher. 10 or so might be heavy hitters Teacher designed, for teachers by teachers. ICU Database. Parent communication. Healthy grading - learning target that’s easy to identify for everyone involved.Tied to a learning standard. Humans not heroes.This isn’t equitable when some teachers don’t have students. Blitzes - getting additional support from the Tier 1 teacher. Math access - Partial Teacher 550 hours in the school year. Menu of supportDepth of Knowledge - Maverik Education AISafety is the cost of doing business, not the number 1 priority. 100% completio
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The Future of AI is Authenticity with Erik Francis Transformative Principal 637
10/11/2024 Duration: 45minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones interviews Erik Francis, an expert in educational leadership and the creator of Maverik Education AI. Francis discusses the role of AI in education, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and critical thinking. Key points include:AI's Limitations: ChatGPT and other AI tools can sometimes produce inaccurate information due to the nature of their sourcing and synthesis processes.Depth of Knowledge (DOK): Francis highlights the need for students to deeply understand their learning, moving beyond surface-level comprehension. He outlines how different levels of DOK correspond to various question types (e.g., "whether" questions indicate DOK 1, while "how" questions indicate DOK 2).AI as a Tool, Not a Replacement: Francis argues that AI should be used as a stimulus for learning, not a source of definitive answers. It can offer suggestions, but educators and students must ultimate
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Investing in the Incline of our Health with Dr. David Lipman
03/11/2024 Duration: 33minI'm excited to announce my Book Study. Get more info and join me here.Dr. David Lipman joins Jethro to talk about critical aspects of health optimization and its impact on our well-being in a modern world filled with physical and environmental stressors. Dr. Lipman discusses how everyday stress activates our fight-or-flight response, depleting energy at a cellular level and affecting our health. He advocates for grounding practices like walking barefoot on natural surfaces, deep breathing techniques like the Wim Hof method, and the importance of proper nutrition. Dr. Lipman also emphasizes removing obstacles at the spinal level to improve nervous system function, a topic aligned with his expertise as a chiropractic physician. Listeners will gain insights on how simple changes, such as hydration with salt, can initiate transformative health improvements. Through his conversation, Dr. Lipman challenges common misconceptions about work-life balance and stresses the importance of making proactive health investmen