Synopsis
The Think Inclusive Podcast features interviews and commentary with thought leaders in inclusive education and community advocacy.
Episodes
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The Intersection of Race and Disability | Pop Up Podcast @ #CEC2022
21/01/2022 Duration: 48minHappy Friday Inclusionists!Today we have a special pop-up podcast interview with some folks I met at the CEC Conference in Orlando this week. They presented a session called, “The Intersection of Race and Disability: Where Do We Go from Here?” I think it is an important reminder for us that inclusion and equity go together, and that when we are talking about inclusive education, we really mean all students. Here is a special bonus interview from the Council for Exceptional Children Conference in Orlando, Florida. CW: the R-word is used in its historical context and in its relation to educational criteria for special educationGuestsDena Slanda, Ph.D.: Dena.Slanda@ucf.eduZerek Mayes, Ed.D.: Zerek.Mayes@gmail.comEric Wells, Ed.D.: Eric.Wells@ode.oregon.govLindsey Pike, MSW: Lindsey.Pike@ucf.eduReferencesAntiracism and Universal Design for Learning by Andratesha Fritzgerald Cultivating Genius by Gholdy Muhammad Case Studies on Diversity and Social Justice Education by Paul Gorski &a
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Amanda Darrow and Shamby Polychronis | Honoring Intersectionality
13/01/2022 Duration: 01h03minToday on the podcast, we welcome Amanda Darrow (Utah Pride Center) and Shamby Polychronis (University of Utah) to talk about honoring intersectionality between the disability and LGBTQIA+ communities. We cover a lot of ground including the difference between gender/sexuality/sex, pronouns, stats on people who identify as both LGBTQIA+ and disabled, and ways educators can make classrooms more inclusive for both communities.Amanda and Shamby also respond to the question, "If kids consume media that has LGBTQIA+ representation, won't they just get confused?"Referenced in our interview: The "Genderbread" PersonThis episode's transcript can be found here.Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcastSurvey.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have a question or comment? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.us.Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE.Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted
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The Best of Think Inclusive Volume 2
30/12/2021 Duration: 45minHappy Holidays!To finish off 2021, we are featuring four interviews. One that you haven't heard yet, Lou Brown, and three that you might have caught in our feed if you've been listening for a while: Katie Novak, Alfie Kohn, Cheryl Jorgensen.The first is a previously unpublished clip from my 2019 interview with the co-founder of TASH, the late Lou Brown. I always meant to revisit this interview and I'm so glad I did for this episode. Next up is my interview with universal design for learning expert, Katie Novak. We talk about how ineffective traditional assessments are because they are not universally designed, even though the most recent education law says they should be. My interview with Alfie Kohn, author of the book punished by rewards, was our most listened to episode of 2021. And the clip you are about to hear is probably one of the reasons why. Alfie, I mean, Mr. Kohn, lays out his argument for why educators should steer clear from using any extrinsic reward system in their classroom.And fina
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Anthony Ianni | Autism, Basketball, and One Athlete's Dream
16/12/2021 Duration: 33minToday on the podcast, we talk with Anthony Ianni, the first autistic Division 1 college basketball player and author of the book, Centered: Autism, Basketball, and One Athlete's Dream. We talk about what it was like growing up, not knowing about his autism diagnosis until high school, playing for the Michigan State basketball team, and what he would tell young people on the autism spectrum about following their dreams. Also in the episode, Tim references the Autistic Self Advocacy Network's "about autism" page as well as their book, "Welcome to the Autism Community." This episode's transcript can be found here. Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcastSurvey. Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education. Have a question or comment? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.us. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Credits This podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podc
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Howard Shane | How Teaching at Belchertown State School Changed My Life
25/11/2021 Duration: 45minContent Warning: In today’s episode, we will discuss depictions of the living conditions of institutions for people with disabilities in the 1960s and certain attitudes about people with disabilities that worked there.Today on the podcast, we talk to Howard Shane, author of the book Unsilenced, associate professional at the Harvard Medical School, and the Director of the Autism Language Program at Boston Children’s Hospital.We talk about what it was like to work at Belchertown State School, an institution for people with disabilities, in the 1960s. We also highlight some of the stories from his book, including how some of his students used an early form of augmentative and alternative communication. Also, special guest, Carol Quirk (CEO of MCIE) drops by at the beginning of the episode to reflect on her experiences working in institutions after she read Howard Shane's book Unsilenced.This episode's transcript can be found here.Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcastSurvey.Visit Think Inclusive
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Karrie Shogren & Sheida Raley | What Does Self-Determination Really Mean?
11/11/2021 Duration: 37minToday on the podcast, we discuss the Self-Determined Learning Model of Instruction (otherwise known as the SDLMI). Our guests, Karrie Shogren and Sheida Raley are both from the Kansas University Center on Developmental Disabilities. We talk about what self-determination really means, what is the SDLMI and how it is implemented in inclusive classrooms, and why the SDLMI is really for everyone.This episode's transcript can be found here.To learn more about the SDLMI visit selfdetermination.ku.edu.Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcastSurvey.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have a question or comment? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.us.Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jenna Rufo | Using Inclusion as a Framework to Build Equity and Support All Students
28/10/2021 Duration: 45minToday on the podcast, we interview author, educator, and consultant, Jenna Rufo about her book Reimagining Special Education, and how we can use inclusion as a framework to build equity and support all students. We also discuss what it looks like for students who are not included 80% or more of their day in general education and if there is a bare minimum to what we call inclusive education.This episode's transcript can be found here.Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcastSurvey.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.What do you think about our new podcast logo design? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.us.Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Michael McSheehan | How MTSS and UDL Fit Into Inclusive Education
14/10/2021 Duration: 01h03minToday on the Think Inclusive Podcast, we interview systems change expert and inclusive education advocate, Michael McSheehan. We talk about what started him on his journey of advocating for inclusive education, his work with SWIFT Schools, the connections between Mult-Tiered Systems of Support and Universal Design for Learning, and if he agrees with the statement, "inclusion done badly is still better than segregation." His answers might surprise you. This episode's transcript can be found here. SWIFT Schools Videos "Together": a SWIFT film on Integrated Educational Framework "Whatever it Takes": SWIFT Inclusive Academic Instruction Film SWIFT Domains and Features at Henderson School Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcastSurvey. Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education. Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.us Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Credits This podcast is a prod
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Janice Fialka & Sara Jo Soldovieri | What To Say When Families Think Segregated Special Education Classrooms Are Best
30/09/2021 Duration: 35minToday on the Think Inclusive Podcast, we interview Janice Fialka and Sara Jo Soldovieri, two passionate advocates for inclusive education.We talk about what we really mean by inclusive education, what might make the biggest impact to bring inclusive education to school districts, and how to talk to families who think segregated special education classrooms are really best for their child.This episode's transcript can be found here.Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcast.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Emily Ladau | How To Be an Ally To Disabled People
16/09/2021 Duration: 31minToday on the podcast, we interview Emily Ladau, disability rights activist and author, about her new book Demystifying Disability: What to Know, What to Say, and How to Be an Ally. We discuss why this book needed to be written, if there is only one model of disability that is valid, and we even play a little game called, “is it ableist?”This episode's transcript can be found here.Take our podcast listener survey: bit.ly/TIPodcastVisit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Genia Stephen | Good Things In Life Podcast
26/08/2021 Duration: 28minToday on the podcast, we interview Genia Stephen, host of the Good Things in Life podcast. We talk about why she started the podcast, what some of the differences and similarities are with the educational systems in the United States and Canada, and if there is such a thing as perfect inclusion.This episode's transcript can be found here.Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Eric Garcia | We're Not Broken: Changing the Autism Conversation
12/08/2021 Duration: 27minToday on the podcast, we talk with Eric Garcia, author of "We're Not Broken: Changing the Autism Conversation."We discuss the biggest misconceptions of autism, why simply existing is not inspirational, and what his dream for the future of a more inclusive world looks like. This episode's transcript can be found here.Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Marilyn Friend | Co-Teaching
29/07/2021 Duration: 28minToday on the podcast, we talk with Marilyn Friend, expert and author of numerous books and articles on co-teaching. We discuss what co-teaching is and what does it look like? Do schools have to provide a co-teaching service model? And how does co-teaching further the practice of inclusive education?This episode's transcript can be found here. Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Sarah Wishart | Excluded: A Young People-Led Film On School Exclusions
15/07/2021 Duration: 27minToday on the podcast, we talk with Sarah Wishart, filmmaker of Excluded, a documentary that features the stories and voices of students who have been excluded from school in the United Kingdom. We discuss why she was inspired to make the film by something she saw on Twitter and why she thinks exclusion isn’t good for anyone.This episode's transcript can be found here.Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Support the podcast and become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Wyatt Oroke | Having High Expectations for All Students
24/06/2021 Duration: 28minToday on the podcast, we talk with Maryland’s 2020 Teacher of the year, Wyatt Oroke about what it means to have an inclusive classroom. We discuss his perspective on how having high expectations for all of his scholars is essential and what his dream for the future of education is.This episode's transcript can be found here. Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web. Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melissa McCullough | What Inclusive Preschool Services Look Like
10/06/2021 Duration: 31minToday on the podcast, we talk with Melissa McCullough, Director of Early Childhood for the East Moline School District in Illinois.We discuss what a truly inclusive preschool program looks like and what they are doing to move past the outdated model of providing specialized services in separate places. This episode's transcript can be found here.Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Eddie Fergus | Disproportionality in Special Education
20/05/2021 Duration: 36minToday on the podcast, we talk with Dr. Eddie Fergus of Temple University.We discuss the disproportionate number of students of color being identified in special education and what we can do about it. We review how restorative practices might be used in inclusive schools and how the biggest barrier to inclusion might be who we think can teach students with disabilities. Be prepared to unpack the shopping carts of our minds.Eddie Fergus is the author of the book Solving Disproportionality and Achieving Equity: A Leader′s Guide to Using Data to Change Hearts and Minds.Follow Dr. Fergus on Twitter.This episode's transcript can be found here.Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Become a pat
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BONUS: Megan Gross and Nancy Brundrett | What Inclusive Education Looks Like at Poway Unified
29/04/2021 Duration: 36minToday on the podcast, we talk with Megan Gross and Nancy Brundrett of the Poway Unified School District in Southern California. They tell us how their district has changed how they educate students with significant disabilities and their role in supporting Poway schools with inclusive education.Megan Gross is the author of the books The Inclusion Toolbox: Strategies and Techniques for All Teachers and ParaEducate.This episode's transcript can be found here.Download our new resource, The Best Inclusive Education Links: 100 links to the best inclusion-related articles, videos, and media on the web.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jenny Kurth | Implementing Inclusive Education with Participation Plans
15/04/2021 Duration: 32minToday on the podcast, we talk with Dr. Jenny Kurth, professor of special education at the University of Kansas. We discuss preparing for and implementing participation plans for students with complex support needs to be included in general education. And why we should all carry around pocket-sized versions of IDEA.Jenny Kurth is the author of the book The Inclusion Toolbox: Strategies and Techniques for All Teachers and the article Preparing for and Implementing Effective Inclusive Education With Participation Plans.This episode's transcript can be found here.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Alfie Kohn | Does Behaviorism Belong in the Classroom?
18/03/2021 Duration: 52minToday on the podcast, we have a very special SUPERSIZED conversation with Alfie Kohn, prolific speaker and author, on human behavior, education, and parenting. We discuss whether bribes or positive reinforcement are really the same things and answer the question…should educators abandon behaviorist ideas altogether?Mr. Kohn is the author of several books, including:Punished by Rewards: Twenty-fifth Anniversary Edition: The Trouble with Gold Stars, Incentive Plans, A's, Praise, and Other BribesThe Schools Our Children Deserve: Moving Beyond Traditional Classrooms and "Tougher Standards"We also reference Autism and Behaviorism: New Research Adds to an Already Compelling Case Against ABA.This episode's transcript can be found here.Visit Think Inclusive for more information about inclusive education.Have questions or comments? Reach us at podcast@thinkinclusive.usFollow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.CreditsThis podcast is a production of MCIE. Become a patron of the Think Inclusive Podcast! Hosted o