The Thoughtful Counselor

Guest Host Amanda Giordano speaks with Markus Lloyd and Antwuan Malone on their personal experience of racism as black men, how systemic racism shapes the way black children think about themselves, and how many white Americans manipulate history to avoid the reality of systemic racism in our past and present. For more on Markus, Antwuan, and Amanda, links from the conversation, and then APA citation for this episode visit www.thethoughtfulcounselor.com. The Thoughtful Counselor is created in partnership with Palo Alto University’s division of Continuing & Professional Studies. Learn more at paloaltou.edu/concept.