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New York Times editor Philip Taubman met General Michael Hayden while investigating NSA eavesdropping operations that began after 9/11. As the director of both the NSA and the CIA, Hayden experienced every facet of cybersecurity. Here, he and Taubman discuss responses to events like Russian hacking during the last U.S. election and leaked NSA tools shared by the Shadow Brokers. Stanford University is a nonpartisan institution, as is the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies. The opinions of the commentators are not necessarily aligned with the views of either institution.