Billy Dees

This episode is a simulcast among the Shades of Jade and Billy Dees Podcast. In this episode, host Sam reunites with filmmaker Sara Alessandrini and longtime podcaster Billy Dees for a wide-ranging conversation about the lasting fallout from COVID-era decisions and the growing crisis of public trust. They examine Anthony Fauci’s recent testimony, the controversy surrounding the handling of scientific dissent, and how differing lockdown experiences—from Italy and Los Angeles to Ohio and Iowa—shaped public perceptions.The conversation also explores the erosion of trust in health officials, the media, and public figures, along with the broader consequences of pandemic-era policies and messaging. From there, the discussion turns to Joe Biden’s cognitive decline, how his final campaign was presented to the public, speculation surrounding Hunter Biden’s political future, and the often-complicated relationship between politicians’ personal lives, public image, and actual records in office.You can find Billy Dees on