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Most people think success comes from never giving up. But sometimes the smartest decision is knowing when to walk away from the wrong opportunity so you can invest your time, energy, and resources where they matter most. In this episode, Annie Duke explains why quitting isn't the opposite of grit—it's an essential part of making better decisions. AJ and Johnny sit down with decision-making expert and former professional poker player Annie Duke to unpack the psychology behind quitting, expected value, sunk cost fallacy, goal-setting, and the biases that keep us stuck. Through stories about Everest expeditions, entrepreneurship, investing, and professional sports, Annie reveals how successful people know when to persist, when to pivot, and how to avoid letting emotions override good judgment. If you've ever stayed in a job, relationship, or project longer than you should because of the time or effort you've already invested, this conversation will give you practical tools to recognize hidden biases, make clea