Drycleanercast: Espionage, Terrorism & Geopolitics

Chris sits down with Gavin Stone—former covert operative, body language expert, and best-selling author—to explore the subtle science of reading people. They delve into the art of lie detection, psychological manipulation, and the power of nonverbal cues in high-risk environments. Drawing on two decades of frontline HUMINT experience, Gavin shares insights from a career spent tracking threats, training operatives, and mastering deception detection. From surveillance tradecraft to the fine line between influence and control, this episode offers a fascinating look at how operatives really interpret human behavior—and what the rest of us can learn from it. Find more about Gavin: https://www.convenzis.co.uk/speakers/gavin-stone Gavin’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GavinStoneAuthor Find Gavin’s book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Gavin-Stone/author/B015HWIKGG. Spy Q event: https://spy-q.com/ Please share this episode using these links Audio: https://pod.fo/e/2ca01f YouTube: https://yo