Drycleanercast: Espionage, Terrorism & Geopolitics

On today’s episode (originally aired January 20th, 2024), Matt speaks with aerospace historian Peter Merlin, whose new book, DREAMLAND: THE SECRET HISTORY OF AREA 51, is the first authoritative, scholarly history ever published on the infamous top-secret base deep in the Nevada desert. This isn’t a book about UFOs or conspiracy theories but instead offers a sweeping, comprehensive study of the real Area 51, where for 70 years the US Air Force has developed and tested classified military aircraft like the U-2 and SR-71 spy planes, the F-117 stealth fighter, and some projects that will remain secret for decades to come. Purchase DREAMLAND through Schiffer Publishing: https://schifferbooks.com/products/dreamland Find DREAMLAND and Peter’s other books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Peter-W.-Merlin/author/B001JS0GU6 Support Secrets and Spies Take our anonymous listener survey here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MSRSSSP Become a “Friend of the Podcast” on Patreon for £3/$4: www.patreon.com/Secrets