Synopsis
A series of podcasts from Disruptive HR that look at the latest trends and innovations within HR
Episodes
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Why Performance Management Sucks (And What to Do About It)
03/06/2025 Duration: 30minEvery year many managers and employees have to go through an ordeal that costs time, money and effort but which delivers little value - actually, it’s worse than that, it decreases employees’ motivation and can occasionally make them leave the company. Yes you guessed it! It’s performance appraisal time! It’s amazing that so many of us are unwilling to let go of a system that costs so much and yet doesn’t improve performance. Fortunately, the tide is turning and many HR teams are introducing different approaches that do actually work. In this episode, Lucy talks to Doug Dennerline, the CEO of Betterworks - a leading performance management software and author of the book ‘Make work better’ - about why traditional approaches don’t work, why we cling to the old ways when they are obviously not delivering, and what the alternatives are. Doug offers insights from his tech industry journey, revealing how companies can evolve by adopting AI-driven tools that revolutionize goal setting and communication. We also she
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The two-year itch: Rethinking Retention for the Modern Tech Workforce
20/05/2025 Duration: 33minMany of our talent and career development models stem from another age - when we joined a company, got a number of promotions and stayed as long as the company allowed us to. Of course, nowadays, the reality for many of us is very different. Flatter structures offer fewer promotional opportunities. Volatile markets mean that the longevity of companies has declined. And whilst there is some debate about whether Gen Z and Millennials do want to change companies more often - in one sector, there’s clear evidence that retaining your people is more of a challenge. In the tech sector, employees are changing jobs and companies every 2 years or so. This is a particular challenge for smaller tech companies where promotional opportunities are more limited. So, how does an HR Director tackle this challenge? Is it about creating golden handcuffs or just accepting that this is the new normal? To discuss this issue Lucy is joined by Matt Kennedy, CPO at Go1, a leading learning content provider. Matt provides an intriguing
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Making HR comms less ‘meh’: Real talk, real connection, real impact
06/05/2025 Duration: 24minHR communications too often fall flat; drowning in a sea of data, facts, and formal language that fails to connect. In this episode, Disruptive HR co-founders Lucy Adams and Karen Moran explore why traditional HR comms so often miss the mark — and more importantly, how you can make yours truly stand out. Lucy and Karen share practical insights on how to transform dry, fact-heavy messaging into communications that cut through the noise, grab attention, and inspire genuine action. They explain why storytelling beats spreadsheets every time when it comes to engagement, and how honesty and authenticity can build far greater trust than polished corporate speak. You'll hear how short, human updates directly from leaders can be more powerful than lengthy newsletters, and why personalising your messages to different employee personas can make all the difference. They also highlight how tapping into employee trust through peer-led communications can amplify your impact, and why ditching jargon in favour of clear, rela
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When Politics Walk Into Work: Managing Ideological Tensions
22/04/2025 Duration: 31minThe social and political landscape is getting more complicated and divided—things like Trump, Gaza, climate change, and so-called wokeism are just a few examples. And all that tension is spilling into the workplace. With misinformation spreading fast, people stuck in their own online bubbles, and fading trust in traditional institutions, employees are showing up with all kinds of different—and often conflicting—opinions. For employers and HR teams, this growing divide makes it harder to keep things running smoothly and respectfully. It’s tougher to encourage open, honest conversations, and disagreements can escalate quickly, leading to conflict, disengagement, or even people leaving. If it's not handled well, it can seriously mess with team dynamics, hurt productivity, and damage the overall culture. Joining Lucy on this week’s episode to discuss these issues and to offer her insights is Edel Holliday-Quinn - the Chief Leadership Psychologist and founder of the Centre for Leadership Psychology. Edel shares he
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Leadership development reinvented: Moving beyond traditional training
08/04/2025 Duration: 35minTired of the same old leadership development strategies? Join Lucy Adams and Karen Moran as they challenge the status quo. Promoting top performers into leadership roles without considering their people skills is a recipe for disaster. Discover why the "superhero" leader model is outdated and doesn't work for modern organizations. Revitalize your leadership training with insights from industry leaders like Salesforce, SAP, Standard Charter, and Nestle. These companies are transforming leadership development by replacing complex competency frameworks with clear, actionable goals. Discover how to create inclusive, personalized, and effective leadership development that drives high-performance and engagement. Learn from real-world examples and practical tips to build a leadership development approach that works! Chapters (00:03) Reimagining Leadership Development Strategies (06:34) Moving Beyond Traditional Leadership Training (20:11) Expanding Leadership Development Opportunities Disruptive HR Website: www.disr
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Gen Z and the 'snowflake' myth
25/03/2025 Duration: 38minIt seems as though there’s a news article every day about how the younger generation lack the resilience or work ethic of their parents. There’s even a nickname to sum up this apparent lack of discipline and disregard for the demands of the workplace - the so-called Snowflake generation. Do younger people present problems for employers in terms of laziness or being too fragile? Or is it just a myth? With nearly 25 years of experience in secondary education, our guest Alex Atherton provides invaluable insights into the resilience and work ethic of today's youth, offering a fresh perspective on whether the perception of Gen Z as fragile and lazy is a stereotype or reality. Join us as we explore the evolving landscape of the Gen Z workforce, examining the challenges and solutions for both employers and employees. We highlight strategies for attracting and retaining young talent by fostering authenticity, transparency, and aligning company culture with the aspirations of Gen Z employees and examine the benefits
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Can AI Solve Recruitment’s Biggest Challenges? HMRC Says Yes!
11/03/2025 Duration: 33minThere doesn’t seem to be any area of HR that isn’t impacted by AI. Whether it’s personalised learning experiences or employee benefits, accessible employee survey tools, enhanced data and analytics or simply the automation of transactions, most HR teams are having to get to grips with the potential of AI. In this episode, we’re joined by Andy Headworth, Deputy Director of Talent Acquisition at HMRC, to discuss the impact of AI in HR, and more specifically in recruitment. Andy’s team, who were early adopters of AI, have been experimenting with emerging technologies to help hiring managers make more informed decisions for the last two years. He explains how AI-driven tools have streamlined the recruitment process, using talent insights and addressing common pain points faced by hiring managers. With AI fast becoming a creative collaborator rather than just a search engine, we discuss the challenges and strategies of introducing AI in a traditionally cautious sector, and the importance of supportive leadershi
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Is it the end for DEI?
25/02/2025 Duration: 21minDiversity, Equity and Inclusion - or DEI as it’s known - has had a rough ride lately. Legal challenges, political pressure, and polarized public opinion have resulted in many big brand names stepping back from their DEI commitments. Does this mean the end for DEI? To discuss this and to offer a more optimistic view, Lucy is joined by her co-founder at Disruptive HR, Karen Moran. They debate whether the recent rolling back on DEI commitments from US corporations are a necessary pragmatism or cynical opportunism. Or whether this could even mean a welcome reset for DEI strategies. Lucy and Karen explore the problems with the way DEI has been delivered in recent years and how this has potentially led to DEI becoming, ironically, quite alienating for many people. They question the impact of the compliance-focused approach to DEI and provide examples of alternative strategies from more progressive companies, including using nudges and AI to check and avoid bias. Finally, they look at how companies are using more h
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Lessons in how to lead engineers from Google
11/02/2025 Duration: 28minWhenever we ask HR professionals about the biggest barriers to innovative people practices, they almost always mention leaders and managers - and this is particularly true in sectors such as engineering and technology. They tell us that, because engineers respond well to process, they struggle to move away from bureaucratic, people processes in favour of more fluid and agile approaches. In this episode, we’re going to prove that engineers can absolutely make great people managers - and hear what HR can do to work with them more effectively. The guest on this episode of HR Disrupted is Kiranbir Sodhia, a Senior Staff Engineering Manager at Google. Kiranbir shares his personal journey from an individual contributor to a people leader at industry giants like Microsoft and Google, candidly reflecting on early mistakes such as micromanaging and the vital role of formal leadership training. We discuss the growing trend of offering career paths for engineers that do not require transitioning into management, highlig
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Rethinking Retirement: Embracing Age Diversity and Career Transitions
28/01/2025 Duration: 35minHear from Victoria Tomlinson, CEO and founder of NextUp, to explore the concept of "unretirement" and the evolving landscape of age diversity in the workforce. In this episode we challenge the outdated perceptions of older workers, particularly in light of a recent controversial post from a global recruitment company which labelled workers over 55 as being ‘in decline’! Together, we confront these stereotypes and discuss the importance of shifting societal and corporate attitudes towards ageing. Victoria shares her inspiring journey and the role lifelong learning and reinvention have played in her career, offering a compelling case for continuous growth and contribution beyond traditional retirement. We explore the option of embracing intergenerational workforce diversity, rather than seeing it as a problem and rethinking age diversity in employment. The discussion highlights the responsibilities of both employers and older workers in fostering inclusive workplaces that leverage the skills and experiences of
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Leadership and culture at Netflix
14/01/2025 Duration: 39minIn 2009 Netflix caused a huge stir in the HR and tech worlds with their 125 page slide deck that set out a new way of leading people. Whilst many companies have now adopted their concepts such as ‘freedom with accountability’, the rejection of the idea that businesses are a family, and the so-called Keeper Test, Netflix were the first major corporation to introduce them. In this episode, Kenny Temowo, a senior member of the Leadership Culture & Talent Development team at Netflix, describes the on-going impact of these pioneering principles. Kenny describes the role of creativity within organizational culture and the importance of an environment that encourages risk-taking and playfulness. We look at how to combine alignment with company-wide approaches with meeting the needs of local teams. And we explore Netflix's distinctive leadership seminars, which foster leadership excellence through engaging stories, poetry, and articles. This approach encourages leaders to navigate real-world challenges without t
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Key HR trends for 2025
31/12/2024 Duration: 25minAs it's our last podcast of 2024, we thought it was a good idea to have a look at the key trends for HR for the coming year. There are lots of areas where HR is progressing and what works for you will depend on the nature of your business, the maturity of your leaders, and your HR function. But in this episode we're going to look at the key trends that might shape your plans. Join Disruptive HR’s Lucy Adams and Karen Moran as they explore the transformative trends set to reshape the workplace by 2025. From AI's evolution beyond basic tasks to becoming an essential tool for recruitment marketing and employee retention, hear how industry leaders like Unilever and IBM are pioneering this change. With AI's predictive capabilities, HR teams can make informed decisions and timely interventions, ensuring they stay ahead in the ever-evolving business landscape. For those yet to embrace AI, this is an invitation to start experimenting and harness the potential of this powerful technology. They also discuss the movemen
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The forgotten issue: Supporting family caregivers in the workplace
17/12/2024 Duration: 34minIn this episode we explore the crucial and often overlooked issue of supporting family caregivers in the workplace. Stephanie Leung, CEO and founder of Karehero, who shares her personal journey from a high-flying career at Goldman Sachs to becoming an advocate for caregivers. Stephanie opens up about her experiences as a family caregiver from a young age and the challenges she faced balancing work and caregiving duties. With over 7 million people in the UK alone juggling these roles, it's time we address the pressures they face and how employers can step up to support them. Stephanie's story highlights the pressing need for better support systems for working caregivers. Her experience underscores the often-unrecognized burden many employees carry, dedicating over 33 hours a week to unpaid care on top of their regular jobs. Stephanie emphasizes the need for organizations to adapt to the realities of an aging population and a shrinking birth rate. The importance of understanding individual needs within the wor
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Employee-centric HR at NatWest
03/12/2024 Duration: 26minDiscover the transformative journey of HR at NatWest through the innovative insights of Katherine O’Callaghan, Head of People Transformation. Katharine shares her experience of reshaping the HR landscape by drawing inspiration from customer experience strategies. We discuss how NatWest has innovatively adopted a "colleague goal and journey model" to enhance the employee experience. Listen in as we explore the cultural shift in performance management and how HR teams are adapting to new, employee-centered methodologies. Agile practices and design thinking are at the forefront of this transformation, helping align HR strategies with real employee and manager insights. Katharine highlights the importance of leveraging data sources, such as pulse surveys and feedback mechanisms, to effectively capture the employee experience. This transformation reflects a significant shift towards a customer-focused approach, emphasizing experimentation and learning from pilot initiatives as key components of this ongoing cultu
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Challenges of the CPO (and solutions!)
19/11/2024 Duration: 26minThis week, the co-founders of Disruptive HR (and ex-CPOs themselves), Lucy Adams and Karen Moran, tackle the unique challenges faced by Chief People Officers (CPOs). They explore the scepticism often directed at CPOs and the pressure to conform to a metrics-heavy approach. They talk about the benefits of embracing a human-centric design for HR strategies and how shifting from rigid, traditional processes to adaptable, employee-centred practices, can enhance the CPO’s impact and credibility. They discuss the challenges for CPOs of balancing operational tasks with strategic thinking amidst constant meetings and compliance demands. They share strategies to alleviate these pressures, such as empowering managers with self-management tools and adopting a product management approach for HR teams. Above all, the episode aims to equip CPOs with practical solutions to streamline their focus and enhance their influence within their organizations. Chapters (00:03) - Challenges and Solutions for HR Leaders (14:01) - The L
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Innovative HR for Professional Services: Clyde & Co
05/11/2024 Duration: 23minWhat unique challenges do HR professionals face in the legal sector, and how can innovative approaches transform traditional practices? Join us as we chat with Emma Stevenson, Director of Partner Relations at Clyde & Co, who takes us through her fascinating 22-year journey in HR, navigating the intricacies of managing partner relations in a global law firm. Learn how she innovated a dedicated HR function for partners within a global law firm, addressing the unique challenges of managing individuals who are both owners and leaders. Discover how Emma's tailored coaching and pioneering initiatives like "Five Minute Mondays" and the "Retire Right" podcast have created a supportive, engaging environment for legal partners. We explore the importance of using ‘human’ language for better engagement and how innovative strategies have been positively received by partners. Don't miss this insightful conversation on driving change and empowering professionals within the legal industry. (00:03) Innovative HR Strategie
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Creating a brand new organisation through values
22/10/2024 Duration: 30minJoin us on this episode of HR Disrupted as we explore the innovative creation of the Commission for Tertiary Education and Research in Wales, with our special guests James Owen, Chief Operating Officer, and Fran Hill, Director of People and Culture. Our conversation covers the birth of this innovative public body, its ambitious goals for enhancing the learner experience, and its commitment to fostering collaboration among educational institutions in Wales. Listen in as we discuss how the new organisation built its approach to people by using the unique values described in the Welsh language and how these values have been used to shape innovative approaches to HR such as human-centred recruitment and personalised onboarding experiences. Don't miss this inspiring conversation on creating a forward-thinking HR approach from the ground up. Chapters (00:03) - Designing a New Organisation's HR Approach (12:55) - Living the Organisational Values Through Recruitment (18:11) - Revolutionising Recruitment and Onboardin
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Integrating HR with Sustainability: Insights from Bates Wells’ Scott Sullivan
08/10/2024 Duration: 28minWhat if your HR department could transform into a beacon of sustainability? Join us for an insightful conversation with HR Director Scott Sullivan as he shares his story on becoming a key player in making Bates Wells the first major law firm to achieve B Corp certification. Scott’s diverse experience across various industries and his roles as a magistrate and charity trustee provide a unique perspective on the importance of external opportunities for HR growth. We also explore Bates Wells' hybrid work model and the innovative strategies they’ve employed to keep their dispersed workforce connected and engaged. Discover how Bates Wells fosters a culture of sustainability through employee-driven initiatives. From vegetarian-only catering to incentivizing green energy adoption, Scott reveals how these grassroots efforts have sparked significant cultural shifts within the firm. These initiatives underscore Bates Wells’ commitment to embedding sustainability into their DNA, illustrating how employee-led actions can
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Boosting Your Brand through Better Hiring Practices
23/09/2024 Duration: 22minWhat happens when an interviewer falls asleep mid-interview or a receptionist actively discourages a candidate from joining? Join Lucy and Karen, co-founders of Disruptive HR, as they recount some shocking personal stories and explore the critical importance of enhancing candidate experiences during the recruitment process. In this episode we dissect the pitfalls of traditional interview methods and unveil innovative strategies to assess candidates effectively. Forget about the same old competency-based questions and assessment centres - how about sharing interview questions in advance or even conducting interviews in cars?! Discover how industry leaders like Microsoft and McKinsey are revolutionising their hiring processes by making candidates feel more at ease and better showcasing their real-world skills. Tune in to learn actionable tips on improving your candidate experience, to enable your organisation to hire the best talent - and retain a positive employer brand even amongst the candidates you reject
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Interview with Michael Kienle - Global VP of Talent Acquisition @ L’Oreal
03/09/2024 Duration: 33minLucy Adams, CEO of Disruptive HR talks with Michael Kienle from L'Oreal about how to improve the candidate experience