Synopsis
The global politics podcast at the end of the End of History. The period in which Western liberal democracy was held to be the final form of human government is now over. Were charting whats emerging and what comes next. With help from a range of contributors, we scan the globe to understand the politics, economics, and culture of the new era. Fortnightly. Produced in Brazil/UK/South Africa/USA. By Alex Hochuli, Ben Fogel, Philip Cunliffe, George Hoare.
Episodes
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/207/ Pangolin vs Lobster, pt 1 ft. Paolo Gerbaudo
10/08/2021 Duration: 59minWhat comes after neoliberalism - the protective state? We talk to Paolo Gerbaudo about his new book, The Great Recoil, in which Paolo argues we are now turning inwards – globalisation is no longer a sea of opportunity and instead fear dominates. How convincing is his notion of an emerging 'protective state', and do either the left or right variants of it really promise us much at all? Part two of the interview is available for subscribers only. Sign up and listen at patreon.com/bungacast Links: The Great Recoil, Verso Books On the 'digital party', Bungacast
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Excerpt: /206/ Three Articles: Post-Liberalism
03/08/2021 Duration: 07minOn post-liberalism: loving the state, crushing the individual? For this 3A, articles from different 'conservative' outlets - but how conservative, and of what kind? Articles: The real danger is insurgency on the right, William Hague, The Times (pdf attached in patreon) To curse social media is to exonerate society, Janan Ganesh, FT (pdf attached in patreon) We are all Britney now, Mary Harrington, Unherd Full episode for subscribers only. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast
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/205/ The World In One Country: The Final ft. Many Guests
27/07/2021 Duration: 01h29minWhat country best captures 20th and 21st century history? For our 200th episode special, we posed the question: "If you had to study the history of only one country from 1900-2020, and thereby understand the history of the whole world, which would you pick?" You voted on the ten submissions and now we invited the top 3 back on the pod to discuss in more depth: Dominik Leusder on Germany; David Broder on Italy; and David Adler on India. Then Phil and Alex choose a winner (it's a "managed democracy"). Buy our book! Links to retailers
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/204/ Three Articles: People's Republic of Fleeing
20/07/2021 Duration: 45minOn Chinese investment, Swiss democracy, and fleeing from Afghanistan. In this Three Articles, we discuss flight or departure in various ways: China opening the gates for its huge savings to spill onto world markets; Switzerland leaving (or remaining outside) the EU; and the US's sudden departure from Afghanistan, without telling anyone. 'Three Articles' episodes are normally for subscribers only - but this one's free. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast for regular access. London book launch/bunga party: Register here Articles: What happens if Chinese household wealth is unleashed on the world?, Thomas Hale and Tabby Kinder, FT (pdf in patreon) Swexit, Wolfgang Streeck, Sidecar-NLR US troops abandoned Bagram airport base in the dead of night..., various, Daily Mail
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Excerpt: /203/ Positive Biopolitics? ft. Benjamin Bratton
13/07/2021 Duration: 09minOn pandemic & post-pandemic politics. We talk to Benjamin Bratton about his new book, The Revenge of the Real, and its argument for a "positive biopolitics". What does an "epidemiological view of society" look like, and why should we let go of the idea that unmediated social relations are the most authentic kind? We touch on the work of Foucault and Agamben and why they are or aren't relevant to our conditions and critique "boomer theorists". The full episode is for subscribers only. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast Come to our book launch in London. Readings: The Revenge of the Real, Verso Books The 7th Function of Language, Laurent Binet, Penguin
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Excerpt: /202/ 3 Articles: Clerisy, War, Football
06/07/2021 Duration: 08minIn our latest 3A, we discuss "the clerisy" and how it relates to the PMC; how the EU is doing forever war just as much as the US; and the hyper-commodification of football. The full episode is for subscribers only. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast Articles: Did Populism Start A 21st Century Anti-Clerical Revolution?, Angela Nagle, Substack Interview with Wolfgang Streeck: The EU’s war in Africa, Jonas Elvander, Brave New Europe Cursed and compromised but Euro 2020’s irresistible circus rolls on, Barney Ronay, The Guardian
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Excerpt: /201/ Reading Club: The New Class War
02/07/2021 Duration: 07minWe discuss Michael Lind's The New Class War. Lind identifies new lines in the class war, between working class and managerial overclass, between those in the "heartlands" and those in the "hubs". How convincing is this account? What is his critique of technocratic managerialism and its symptom, populism? How convincing - and realistic - is his solution of "democratic pluralism"? And is this only achievable as a result of a new cold war with China? Reading Clubs are for higher-tier subscribers only. Sign up for $10/mo for full access: patreon.com/bungacast
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/200/ The World In One Country ft. Many Guests
29/06/2021 Duration: 01h18minOn world history, 1900-2020. For our 200th episode special, we pose the question: "If you had to study the history of only one country from 1900-2020, and thereby understand the history of the whole world, which would you pick?" We invited 10 contributors to each pitch one country, whose particularities capture the universal sweep of world history from the start of the 20th century till now. Vote for which you think is best, and we'll have the top 3 back on to discuss in more depth: Link to voting page Running order: (18:20) Germany - Dominik Leusder (23:02) Greece - Jonas Kyratzes (27:57) India - David Adler (33:46) Indonesia - Vincent Bevins (38:25) Iraq - Liam Meissner (44:03) Italy - David Broder (49:19) Mexico - Roger Lancaster (54:01) Taiwan - Nic Johnson (59:44) Turkey - Arash Azizi (01:04:32) Yugoslavia - Lily Lynch Buy our book! Links to retailers Come to our London book launch! Event link
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Excerpt: /199/ Aufhebonus Bonus (June)
22/06/2021 Duration: 08minWe take your questions, comments & criticisms. This episode is for subscribers only. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast On this Aufhebonus Bonus, we discuss whether unions are still capable of fighting for their members; the Arab-Israeli conflict at the End of History; a lot more on the 'PMC debate'; plus: whether Phil is "reductionist in the service of his own prejudices".
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/198/ Universal India ft. Achin Vanaik
18/06/2021 Duration: 01h36minOn secularism, nationalism and identity politics. India is held up as a model developing country: liberal, democratic, multicultural. Renowned Indian writer and activist Achin Vanaik joins us to examine how India has turned away from universalism and secularism. How did Gandhi, Nehru and the Congress as a whole lay the seeds for today's Hindu chauvinism? What are the consequences of defining secularism as merely 'tolerance'? And how has caste come to function a bit like identity politics in relation to the state? Readings: Nationalist Dangers, Secular Failings, Achin Vanaik, Aakar Books The Rise of Hindu Authoritarianism, Achin Vanaik, Verso Books The Rise of Hindu Nationalism and the Failures of the Indian Left, Interview with Achin Vanaik, Jacobin
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Excerpt: /197/ Reading Club: The Breakaway
10/06/2021 Duration: 06minWe discuss the third and final in the series of Perry Anderson essays on the EU in the London Review of Books, "The Breakaway", and wonder if the EU can - despite its crises - just carry on indefinitely. Reading Clubs are for monthly subscribers $10+. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast
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Excerpt: /196/ Cosmopolitan Dystopia
08/06/2021 Duration: 08minOn atrocity and sovereignty. This episode is for subscribers only. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast The disasters of Iraq, Libya, Syria and beyond are there for all to see. Why hasn't an emphasis on Human Rights led to fewer atrocities? How has Western intervention made the world a less safe place? We discuss Philip's book Cosmopolitan Dystopia: International Intervention and the Failure of the West and discover that no one really defends sovereignty today. What's behind the concept of 'Responsibility to Protect' (R2P)? And should we understand it as a form of "liberal imperialism"?
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/195/ No Shock China ft. Isabella Weber
01/06/2021 Duration: 01h22minOn China, economic reform, and the future. While Russia famously succumbed to destructive neoliberal "shock therapy", China managed to avoid it. How and why? Isabella Weber, author of How China Escaped Shock Therapy, tells us about China's opting for gradual reform instead. What did reform mean for understandings of socialism? Do communists make the best capitalists? And is the pursuit of growth and development at any cost China's own version of the End of History?
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Excerpt: /194/ Anti-Politics & Non-Movements
25/05/2021 Duration: 08minOn global insurrection and identity politics. This episode is for subscribers only. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast We discuss an essay by the ultra-left collective 'Endnotes' that deals with the same political questions as we do, but comes up with different answers. Are the fragmented and ephemeral movements that have taken to the streets in France, Chile and the US, for example, the future of politics? Anti-political rejections of the establishment seem radical, but can they overcome their own negativity? And are identity politics the necessary form that re-politicisation has taken? Readings: Essay discussed Onward Barbarians, Endnotes Background The Bleak Left, Tim Barker, n+1 Endnotes no.5: A melancholic goodbye…, Angry Workers of the World On communisation and its theorists, Friends of the Classless Society
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/193/ The New 20 Years' Crisis
18/05/2021 Duration: 01h09minOn liberal idealism and imperial overreach. Why did the winners of the Cold War turn 'revisionist', undermining their own order? How has utopianism come to dominate the discipline of IR, such that we have lost the means to critique power? We discuss Philip's recent book, The New Twenty Years’ Crisis 1999-2019: A Critique of International Relations, which is both a revisiting of EH Carr's international relations classic The Twenty Years' Crisis as well as an account of the contemporary crisis of the liberal international order. Reading: The New Twenty Years’ Crisis 1999-2019: A Critique of International Relations, Philip Cunliffe, McGill-Queen's UP
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Excerpt: /192/ Three Articles: Pandemic (Dis)Satisfactions
11/05/2021 Duration: 07minOn consequences of the pandemic + important local election results in Spain & UK. We start off by discussing the telling results of some recent local and regional elections: in the UK, Labour continues its drift to becoming a middle-class party; while in Spain, Madrid goes to the right. Podemos flops, while voters seem to endorse an anti-lockdown stance. Then we get to our three articles on the consequences of the pandemic: is live-streaming complicit with power? Are liberals now anti-science? Will inflation return? Three Articles: Stayed home, live streamed, got the T-shirt, Lev Parker, The Conservative Woman The Liberals Who Can’t Quit Lockdown, Emma Green, The Atlantic Broad commodities price boom amplifies ‘supercycle’ talk, Neil Hume et al, FT
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Excerpt: /191/ Reading Club: Ever Closer Union?
10/05/2021 Duration: 04minWe discuss the second of Perry Anderson's three LRB essays on the making and unmaking of the EU: "Ever Closer Union?" Our monthly Reading Club is for patrons $10+. Sign up at patreon.com/bungacast
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/190/ Top 5 Fetishes ft. Elena Louisa Lange
04/05/2021 Duration: 01h12minOn class reductionism, commodity fetishism, and value theory. To discuss Covid, the state as 'PMC leviathan', and the politics of value theory, we’re joined by philosopher Elena Louisa Lange, who also explains why class reductionism is not a theoretical position or a mere mistake, but a social reality. We also address the value of 'going back to school', take on the new Leftist 'holy trinity' of class-race-gender, and hear from Elena why we need to theorise the world before we change it. Readings: The Middle-Class Leviathan: Corona, the “Fascism” Blackmail, and the Defeat of the Working Class, Elena Louisa Lange and Joshua Pickett-Depaolis, Crisis and Critique, 2020 Marxism and the Crisis of Development in Prewar Japan, Germaine A. Hoston, Princeton, 1987 Lawyer’s Fees, Beetroot, and Music, Elena’s Substack Value Without Fetish, Elena Louisa Lange, Brill 2021 Marxist Class Theory for a Skeptical World, Raju J. Das, Haymarket, 2018
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UNLOCKED /183/ Acid Bunga Bunga ft. Mike Watson
02/05/2021 Duration: 01h18minOn memes and the counter-culture. Theorist and curator Mike Watson advances the argument for "acid leftism". What is this, and why do we need a new counter-culture? Is contemporary leftism lacking a utopian imaginary? Plus: slow memes and fast memes; the democratisation of art and media; and generations: which ones became conservative, which might not? Running order: (00:04:15) - Interview with Mike Watson (01:02:00) - 'Afterparty' discussion on what a counter-culture might look like today Readings: Can the Left Learn to Meme? , Mike Watson, Zero Books The Acid Left, YouTube channel The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction, Walter Benjamin (pdf)
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/189/ Pink Tide Paradoxes ft. Fabio Luis
27/04/2021 Duration: 01h23minOn Latin America's progressive wave and its discontents. A new book on Latin America argues that 'pink tide' governments tried to treat the symptoms of neoliberal capitalism while allowing the underlying situation to worse. We talk to the author, Fabio Luis, about cases across the region, including the election in Ecuador and Venezuela's disaster, to Bolivia's coup and Argentina's "path of least resistance". How important is regional integration and what does an alternative socialist vision entail? And we ponder a sad question: is the dream of development and modernisation over? Readings: Power and Impotence: A History of South America Under Progressivism (1998-2016), Fabio Luis Barbosa dos Santos, Haymarket /93/ Hot Chile and Other Neoliberal Failures ft. Pablo Pryluka Bungacast