...these Are Their Stories: The Law & Order Podcast

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True crime writers and pop culture podcasters Kevin Flynn and Rebecca Lavoie invite special guests to talk about ripped-from-the-headlines episodes of Law & Order, SVU, and Criminal Intent. Tweet to us @lawandorderpod or find us on Facebook at facebook.com/lawandorderpod and on the web at lawandorderpodcast.com

Episodes

  • SVU: Liv & Elliot visit a sex club and meet incestuous con artist twins

    11/06/2025 Duration: 46min

    While investigating a man stabbed in the groin, Benson and Stabler learn the victim and his wife frequent a sex club. The partners go undercover as swingers and meet the victim's paramour, Cassandra (Rose McGowan). They suspect her jealous ex-boyfriend, Doug, might be the attacker. Elliot and Olivia are shocked to learn that not only have Cassandra and Doug been running a con on the unsuspecting victim, they're actually twins committing - as Stabler calls it - "twincest."We're looking at SVU season 12 episode 19 "Bombshell." Our guest from the September 12, 2018 episode is Toronto Sun sex & relationship columnist Simone Paget. The inspiration for one of the characters is burlesque star Dita von Teese. NEW EPISODES OF "THESE ARE THEIR STORIES" RETURN JULY 9!For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • SVU: Dude put a microchip in his wife

    28/05/2025 Duration: 45min

    After an extended undercover assignment, Benson is reunited with Stabler to investigate the poisoning of a model. The case involves drugs, a mute eyewitness, a rabid dog, and an affair between the victim's husband and Naomi, a beautiful dancer (Catherine Bell). Later, the detectives learn her husband Glenn (Bob Saget) has secretly implanted a microchip in his wife to keep tabs on her. He confesses to the revenge murder, but the chip has made Naomi gravely ill. Glenn donates part of his liver to save Naomi before being wheeled back to jail.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 8 episode 9 "Choreographed." Our guest from the February 1, 2017 episode is "Outside/In" and "Bear Brook" senior producer Taylor Quimby - better known to our fans as Uncanny Valleys, the composer of our catchy theme song.Though not based on a crime, this SVU episode is inspired by the true story of microchip enthusiast Amal Graafstra. NEW EPISODES OF "THESE ARE THEIR STORIES" RETURN JULY 9!For exclusive content from Kevin and R

  • SVU: STUCKEY DID IT!

    14/05/2025 Duration: 43min

    Benson and Stabler have an open-and-shut case against psycho killer Peter Harrison. But annoying lab tech Dale Stuckey makes an error with the bloody knife, leaving Judge Donnelly no choice but to set the suspect free. Munch and Fin tail Harrison to Coney Island and "chase" him through a fun house before another body is discovered. Soon the detectives are dealing with booby traps, secret lairs with secret tunnels, poison-filled needles and poison-filled gas. Munch reaches out to his mentally ill ex-wife (Carol Kane) to help capture the elusive culprit. While visiting the crime lab, Stabler discovers the killer's DNA belongs to Stuckey. After taking Elliot hostage, he admits to framing Harrison and targeting those who've embarrassed him. Benson tricks Stuckey into thinking she loves him by slapping the hell out of Stabler. When Olivia goes in for a kiss, Elliot kicks Stuckey and knocks him out.We're going back to our October 11, 2017 episode to look at Special Victims Unit season 10 episode 22 "Zebras." Our gu

  • L&O: Hey! Who stole my kidney?!

    30/04/2025 Duration: 41min

    Police discover an unconscious man in Central Park who's been the victim of a theft - of his kidney! Det Sgt Max Greavey and Det Mike Logan learn the daughter of wealthy Phillip Woodleigh suddenly withdrew from the organ transplant list. They discover surgeon James Reberty rented portable surgical equipment and find bloody bandages at his nurse’s apartment. ADA Paul Robinette says Reberty didn’t sew off the renal artery, suggesting he wanted the victim/donor to die. EADA Ben Stone believes Woodleigh paid the surgeon $2 million to get a kidney for his daughter…by any means necessary.  We're talking about Law & Order season 1 episode 21 "Sonata for Solo Organ."Our guest from our May 22, 2019 episode is Dan Taberski, from "Missing Richard Simmons," "Running from COPS," and “Hysterical.” The episode was inspired by the 1989 organ scandal involving Amhet Koc. NEW EPISODES OF "THESE ARE THEIR STORIES" RETURN JULY 9!For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • SVU: Robin Williams manipulates, impersonates, litigates, kidnaps, tortures, and blows a recording studio up all to make a point

    16/04/2025 Duration: 46min

    Benson and Stabler look for a man who impersonated a cop on the phone and tricked a man into strip searching his employee. The trail leads to Merritt Rook (Robin Williams, in an Emmy-nominated performance), who squares off in court against Novak and wins an acquittal. Rook becomes a folk hero, saying we’ve all become sheep to authority. He organizes a flash mob in Grand Central Station where he kidnaps Olivia. Elliot tracks Rook to a recording studio where he’s holding his partner. Stabler hears Benson’s shrieks of pain from electric shocks, but they’re only sound effects. As the detectives arrest him, this supervillain has one more trick up his sleeve: he activates an explosive that blows up the studio and gets away. Benson and Stabler chase him to the banks of the East River, but Rook vanishes, never to be seen again.We’re talking about SVU’s 200th episode: season nine, episode 17, “Authority.” Our guest from our February 27, 2019 show is Michelle Rubenstein from the "It Takes Three podcast" network. This e

  • SVU: Who's preying on the girls in that reality TV family?

    02/04/2025 Duration: 46min

    When the Bakers, a chastity-espousing reality TV family, come to New York to celebrate Lane's purity ceremony, they discover the 13-year-old is pregnant. After interrogating a cameraman, Fin and Carisi learn that accusations of inappropriate touching by the oldest son, Graham, were buried by the Bakers' powerful supporters. Before Benson and Dodds can question him, the family pastor says the boy has been sent to a camp in Ecuador. After binge-watching their show, Rollins suspects Graham fathered a child with a different sister. But the DNA points in a different direction. The pastor himself has been preying on the daughters and blaming the son.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 17 episode 7* "Patrimonial Burden." Our returning guest is Melody Carlisle from the "Heaving Bosoms" podcast.This episode is inspired by the scandal around reality TV stars, the Duggar family.*Note: Because of a two-part season opener, some streaming services list this as episode 6. NEW EPISODES OF "THESE ARE THEIR STORIES

  • L&O: Briscoe is accused of being dirty

    19/03/2025 Duration: 49min

    As Detectives Briscoe and Curtis work a drug sting, Lt. John Flynn shoots the dealer. Lenny backs up his old friend's story that Ruben Morales went for his gun, but Rey is suspicious about Flynn's connection to the dealer. They learn Morales was going to testify against a kingpin who had Flynn on his payroll. Prosecutors Jack McCoy and Jamie Ross want to charge Flynn with murder, but the dirty cop gets a deal in exchange for testifying before a police corruption commission. In front of the cameras, he accuses Briscoe of stealing drugs from the evidence locker. Lenny struggles to defend himself because the incident happened during his drinking days. The married woman he had an affair with comes forward to provide him with an alibi, but is humiliated by the commissioners. While wearing a wire, Briscoe gets Flynn to confirm his innocence. His perjury nullifies his deal, and before Lenny can take him in, Flynn shoots himself.We're talking about Law & Order season 7 episode 5 "Corruption." Our special guest is

  • L&O: Briscoe solves 3 murders, 1 kidnapping, and delivers a baby in one day

    05/03/2025 Duration: 49min

    A jogger who died of a heart attack leads police to the unrelated murder of a woman who's been using the Social Security number of Marcella Celaya, who was killed ten years ago. Detectives Briscoe and Green learn that Rafael Berseño, the victim's husband, used to have the last name Celaya also. Before they question him further, they spot a jealous wife running over her husband with her car again and again. Then, Green discovers a note on a bathroom mirror from a pregnant woman saying she's been kidnapped. Meanwhile, they hear Rafael's brother Reynaldo just got out of prison for killing his wife Marcella, though her body was never found.Reynaldo tells McCoy and Southerlyn he already served his sentence for killing Marcella, even though she wasn't dead, and they can't convict him twice for killing the same person. Still on the job, Briscoe and Green learn Rafael and Marcella set up Reynaldo so they could be together. When he got out of prison, he forced his brother to kill his (their) wife. Briscoe gets a lead

  • SVU: David Harbour plays with dolls and kidnaps Gloria Reuben's kid

    19/02/2025 Duration: 46min

    After the body of a mummified child is discovered, Benson and Stabler run out of leads. At a vigil for "Cherish Doe," Fin meets Violet (Gloria Reuben). She's fresh from rehab and fears the unidentified girl is her missing daughter, Nina. The detectives learn the victim is a different girl, but both children were taken from their homes by a man posing as a social services worker. The trail leads to a handyman with an obsession for expensive dolls (David Harbour). In order to get him to say where the missing Nina is, Violet must convince him she's not a bad mother.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 4 episode 7 Dolls. Our returning guest is Lani Diane Rich.Some plot points share similarities with the 1991 investigation into an unidentified child known only as “Baby Hope.” For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • SVU: The hoarder brothers kept their mom in the freezer

    05/02/2025 Duration: 45min

    The squad investigates the murder of Bobbi O'Rourke, a book author who'd written about her life as a teen prostitute. Carisi finds out the victim was just posing as the writer for public appearances because no one has ever seen the real Bobbi. Fin traces the royalty payments to the home of Joe and Ben Edelman (Judd Hirsch and Wallace Shawn), two bickering, old Jewish men who have lived as hoarders and shut-ins for decades. Benson learns there is no Bobbi; Ben wrote the sexually-explicit book under the pseudonym. But before they let the brothers go, Carisi discovers their dead mother's body in a locked freezer. ADA Peter Stone charges the Edelmans with murder. Based on the book, Olivia believes Ben might be a past sexual assault victim. Rollins learns Joe was also molested, but the brothers have never told each other about their trauma. At trial, Joe takes the blame for smothering their dying mother decades ago - then has a massive heart attack. Visiting his older brother's death bed, Ben finally shares his se

  • CI: Which novelist murdered to protect their secret?

    22/01/2025 Duration: 50min

    Goren and Eames investigate the murder of an aspiring writer. Kira Danforth was surrounded by unsavory literary figures, including a lecherous book agent (Fisher Stevens), an author with a hardscrabble back story (Pablo Schreiber), and a publishing giant who hasn't had a bestseller in years (Peter Coyote). The detectives learn Kira discovered TJ Hawkins' gritty biography was a lie and that the washed-up Lionel Shill plagiarized her unpublished novel.  Did one of the writers kill her to protect their secret?We're talking about Criminal Intent season seven episode seven "Self-made." Our returning guest is Pulitzer Prize-winning author Dr. Marcia Chatelain.Among the literary scandals that inspired this episode is that of J.T. LeRoy.  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • SVU: Stabler beats up Sabrina Carpenter's attacker

    08/01/2025 Duration: 48min

    Benson and Stabler connect an assault on a child (played by a young Sabrina Carpenter) to the rape of Larissa, who'd been forced into child pornography decades ago. The rapist leads them to Orville Underwood, the man acquitted of making the explicit videos years earlier. He explains that his DNA was on photos found at the rapist's home because he decided to rub one out in the bathroom and it got everywhere.Unable to make a case against Underwood, Olivia and Elliot look for Daniel, Larissa's scene partner. The detectives discover he's making his own child porn and refuses to testify against his old kidnapper. After Underwood gets the case thrown out of court, Larissa takes matters into her own hands.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 12 episode 12 "Possessed." Our returning guest is Lauren van der Meer from the "Drinks with Death" podcast. Aspects of this episode take some inspiration from the case of Alex Cabarga. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • L&O: Did a drug dealer sell his baby to a woman faking her pregnancy?

    25/12/2024 Duration: 44min

    After a mother is murdered and her newborn Nicky kidnapped, Detectives Joe Fontana and Ed Green interrogate Frank, the drug dealer who was in her apartment that morning. But Lt. Van Buren says a witness spotted a pregnant woman fleeing the building with Nicky. The trail leads to Arlene Tarrington, a woman who'd been faking her pregnancy.Arlene admits while suffering from postpartum psychosis, she kidnapped the infant but didn't kill the victim. ADA Alexandra Borgia learns Arlene had offered a teen mom $50,000 for her baby, and she called Frank days before the murder. He tells the cops he's Nicky's biological father and scammed Arlene with a promise to sell his child for cash. EADA Jack McCoy must decide who he believes the actual killer is and offer a deal to the other...but does he make the right choice?We're talking about Law & Order season 16 episode 7 "House of Cards." Our guest is Margo Donohue from the Book vs. Movie podcast. Some inspiration for this episode comes from the 1988 kidnapping of Rachae

  • SVU: Keke Palmer searches for her sister...and anthrax!

    11/12/2024 Duration: 49min

    After escaping from her kidnapper, Tasha (played by Keke Palmer) tells Benson and Stabler the man rescued her and her sisters from New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. The detectives track down the abductor and find Tasha's sister, but the suspect has contracted a fatal case of anthrax inhalation. The FBI swoops in, takes the girls, steals all of SVU's evidence, and threatens to prosecute any detective who discloses the information. Olivia leaks the story to reporter Jackson Zane whose front page exposé gets the sisters returned. After she and Elliot arrest a lab tech and learn the anthrax is still at large, Olivia again tips off Zane. The reporter refuses to identify the leaker and chooses to go to jail instead of revealing Benson as his source.We're talking about the jam-packed Special Victims Unit season seven episode ten "Storm." Our guest is Maggie Freleng from the "Wrongful Conviction" podcast. A character in this episode is based on former New York Times journalist Judith Miller. For exclusive content

  • SVU: Can a schizophrenic woman help find her rapist?

    27/11/2024 Duration: 46min

    Benson and Stabler look for a serial rapist who's targeting women with disabilities. Into the squad room walks Miranda Cole, a woman with schizophrenia (Amanda Plummer, in an Emmy-winning appearance), but it's hard to find answers within her disorganized speech. Olivia butts heads with Miranda's doctor, a former cop who went to the academy with her. Tidbits from the victim's ramblings lead Munch and Tutuola to a closeted gay man who's a strong suspect, but Cragen says his DNA doesn't match the crime scenes. Stabler breaks the rules to decipher the misleading DNA, while Benson lets Miranda be Miranda to discover important evidence.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season six episode nine "Weak." Our guest is Aviv Rubinstein of the "Special Viewing Unit" podcast.This episode is inspired by the ripped-from-the-headlines story of Troy Graves. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • SVU: The preacher's sleeping with his daughter-in-law

    13/11/2024 Duration: 47min

    Benson and Stabler investigate the murder of a woman in her hotel room. She's the daughter-in-law of the president of an ultra-conservative college, Ben Hadley. Munch and Jeffries arrest the culprit behind a string of hotel burglaries, but he's not the killer. Neither is the financial consultant the victim had been hitting on.  Elliot discovers Ben Junior wasn't aware his wife was pregnant, and Olivia learns she had a two-year-long affair with Ben Senior. When Cragen confronts the Hadleys with the DNA results, the son confesses to strangling the victim in a jealous rage, unaware her lover was his father.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season one episode 17 "Misleader." Our returning guest is Nettie Smith from the Saber's Playbook podcast.This episode is inspired by the real life story of George Roche III. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • CI: The parents left their baby alone in a hotel room while they went to dinner

    30/10/2024 Duration: 48min

    Detectives Goren and Eames investigate the kidnapping of a baby left alone in a hotel room while the parents went out to dinner. They locate a cat burglar who robbed several rooms, then foil a fake ransom scam targeting a wealthy aunt, but baby Emma is still missing.Captain Ross says there's no way the baby could have left the hotel undetected. Maybe she was never there to begin with? The detectives discover the little girl in the picture is actually the Haslum's neighbor. Goren finally gets to the truth: Emma died months ago in a hot car and the grieving parents are suffering from a dual madness pretending it didn't happen.We're talking about Criminal Intent season eight episode seven "Folie á Deux." Our returning guest is Katie from A Date with Dateline podcast.Among the stories drawn upon for this episode include the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • L&O: Benson battles Price over an SVU victim charged with murder

    16/10/2024 Duration: 46min

    Detectives Vincent Riley and Jalen Shaw investigate the murder of a dating app developer. The squad's new lieutenant, Jessica Brady, runs the suspect's DNA through the rape kit database. Laura, the shooter, is a former SVU victim whose case was mishandled. Captain Olivia Benson goes to bat for her, arguing victims will refuse to give their DNA if they think it will be used against them in the future.Benson stuns prosecutors Nolan Price and Samantha Maroun by agreeing to testify the shooting was self-defense. She says Laura's trauma gave her a heightened sense of danger, even though the victim wasn't actually stalking her. Benson convinces Price to offer Laura a deal - which she refuses. Meanwhile, District Attorney Nicholas Baxter pledges to reform the use of that DNA database.We're talking about the latest episode of NBC's "Law & Order" season 24 episode 2 "The Perfect Man." Our returning guest is Brandi Brown.Plot points in this story are inspired by the concerns over the use of artificial intelligence

  • SVU: That Hudson student does violent porn

    02/10/2024 Duration: 46min

    When two frat boys at Hudson University learn co-ed Evie Barnes earns her tuition shooting violent porn, they rape her in a dorm. Sgt. Olivia Benson says the attack is still a crime because Evie didn't consent. At trial, the defense says Evie is so good in her rape fantasy pornos, the boys had no idea she wasn't acting. Barba wins a conviction, but the judge sets the conviction aside, saying there was no evidence she said "no." Betrayed by the court, disowned by her parents, and expelled from school, Evie leaves the city once and for all to star in even more violent adult films.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 16 episode 5 "Pornstar's Requiem." Our returning guest is Kimberly from the A Date with Dateline podcast.This episode is inspired by the real life story of Duke University student Miriam Weeks, an adult film actress who performed under the name Belle Knox.  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

  • Toronto: The cost of bread in Canada is MURDER!

    18/09/2024 Duration: 45min

    Toronto detectives Henry Graff and Frankie Bateman arrest the hit man responsible for the murder of Zoe Vaughn, the COO at grocery store mega-chain Best Betts. The search for who hired the assassin leads them to Douglas Hill, owner of rival Hill Breads. But photos taken by the victim show the competitors were actually colluding to fix the price of bread in Canada. Graff uses his Gorenesque skills to deduce CEO Nadia Betts fooled Hill into hiring the hit man - not to keep Vaughn from exposing their price fixing scheme - but to keep her from stealing Betts's job.We're talking about the new Canadian spin-off series Law & Order Toronto: Criminal Intent season 1 episode 6 "Minnow and the Shark." Our guest is Simone Paget from the We’re Never Doing This Again podcast.Plot points for this episode come from the scandal over the Canadian bread price fixing scheme. For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.

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