Synopsis
An SCCE Podcast
Episodes
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Eric Shoemaker on Establishing the Value of a Cybersecurity Compliance Program [Podcast]
06/05/2025 Duration: 13minBy Adam Turteltaub How much is your cybersecurity program worth? Traditionally the thinking has kind of been: if we don’t have a breach it’s expensive but valuable, and if we do have one it’s both expensive and worthless. Eric Shoemaker of Genius GRC advocates for a different way to value cybersecurity efforts. Instead of just looking at what it prevents, also look at what it enables: your organization to do business with less friction. A good cybersecurity program give customers the confidence that you are safe to do business with. It prevents business interruptions, and doesn’t get too much in the way of the business. So track things like deals successfully closed after reviewing the company’s cyber defenses. He also argues for using near misses as a way to demonstrate value. Each incident provides an opportunity to examine what could have gone wrong, what controls worked, and what enhancements could be made to strengthen them. Listen in to learn more about how you can establish the value of your cybe
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Virginia MacSuibhne on Mistakes and What She Learned from Them [Podcast]
01/05/2025 Duration: 15minBy Adam Turteltaub Virginia MacSuibhne is not your typical compliance officer. It’s not surprising then that this former global chief compliance at Agilent and Roche, who also has an Etsy shop selling irreverent, NSFW compliance merch, decided she wanted to do an atypical podcast. Rather than focusing on a brilliant idea she had or a huge success, she suggested we discuss the mistakes she has made. Each of them has an important lesson for others in compliance. Mistake #1: Do the code of conduct yourself. It’s far better to involve the business team both to gain their insights and get their buy in. Mistake #2: Think working inside a company is like working for their law firm. When you work in a company, even in the legal department, you need to focus on relationships and be less transactional. There’s no clock or timesheet to record billable hours. So spend the time getting to know your colleagues and building personal connections with them. Mistake #3: Disregard the rhythm of the business. Every business
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Colin May on Creating Compelling Scenarios and Case Studies [Podcast]
29/04/2025 Duration: 13minBy Adam Turteltaub A good, juicy case study is great for compliance training. An artfully created scenario can also be remarkably effective, especially for ethics training. What makes them so appealing, and how do you use them best? Colin May, Adjunct Professor at Stevenson University, explains that problem-based learning is very effective for adults both for knowledge transfer and retention. It also helps people apply what they have learned. Case studies, which are based on actual incidents, and scenarios, which are fictional, also benefit from a human love of stories. When determining whether to use a case study, scenario or some other learning method, he advises first thinking about the outcome: what do you want people to take away from the training. Next, think about the debriefing after employees have had a chance to either read the case study or act out a scenario. That subsequent conversation may prove to be the most valuable part of the learning exercise. Be sure, too, to keep your case studies a
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Asaf Shalev on HR and Compliance [Podcast]
24/04/2025 Duration: 14minBy Adam Turteltaub There’s a lot of discussion about the relationship between compliance and the general counsel. Less words, though, have been dedicated to the important relationship between compliance and HR. Netherlands-based Asaf Shalev, Global Ethics, Risk & Compliance Lead for DLL rightly observes that maximizing synergy between the work of HR and compliance is a key for success of both the compliance program and the business. The departments share overlapping interests in a number of areas, including the code of conduct. He advocates both sides working closely together to ensure that it is human centric. When it comes to compensation, HR can help by building in compliance-related metrics. When it comes to discipline, HR can ensure that it is documented, consistent and fair. They can also be helpful for navigating local the labor laws that may apply. Listen in to learn more about how to make the compliance-HR relationship work from recruiting and onboarding through the entire employee lifecycle. L
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Sarah Hadden on Compliance Officer Stress and Burnout [Podcast]
22/04/2025 Duration: 10minBy Adam Turteltaub Stress can be a good thing. Burnout, though, is something altogether different and very real for compliance professionals. Sarah Hadden (LinkedIn), CEO and Publisher of Corporate Compliance Insights shares in this podcast the not always encouraging data on stress and burnout from their 2025 Compliance Officer Working Conditions, Stress & Mental Health survey. The research did reveal some very good news. Compliance officers are generally happy with their work. They have a sense of purpose and feel that what they are doing is important. The findings also revealed a small but notable increase in the belief that the organization is supportive of compliance efforts. On the other side of the coin, though, only 7% said that job stress was not an issue. More concerning, 51% reported that they are experiencing burnout. What causes that burnout? A variety of factors are in play including the fast pace of regulations, personal liability fears, lack of time and resources and even AI. One of the g
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Catherine Bruno on Risk Assessments and Demonstrating Value [Podcast]
17/04/2025 Duration: 10minBy Adam Turteltaub There is a tendency to think of risk assessment as one thing and demonstrating the value of the compliance program as another. In this podcast, Catherine Bruno, Assistant Director Office of Integrity and Compliance (OIC) at the FBI shows that the risk assessment process can also be a great way to demonstrate the value of a strong compliance program. So how do they make that happen? First, the OIC ensures that individuals who are closer to the risk, the subject matter experts at each of the divisions at FBI headquarters, as well as each field office, are involved both from the start and on an ongoing basis. Every six months the OIC requires them to spend time assessing compliance risk and put forward at least one. This process ensures participation without demanding too much of the field’s time. In advance of that meeting, the OIC conducts a training session, provides a model agenda, and may do a presentation on a particular risk area. They also require that, at the meeting, the particip
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Lisanne Winde and Alain Lambert on Works Councils [Podcast]
15/04/2025 Duration: 11minBy Adam Turteltaub The words “works council” inspires fear and dread in the hearts and minds of many who have never worked with them. They need not, says Lisanne Winde, attorney at law at Wybenga advocaten and Alain Lambert, regional ethics and compliance officer for Central Europe at WSP. In this podcast, they share how the works council can actually help compliance teams. These entities are not unions but are specific to the company. They can be helpful for facilitating communication with employees and giving greater legitimacy to company policies. In practice they collaborate with management and can be more helpful than those unfamiliar with them may think. However, there are times when working with the works council is not just a nice to have but a requirement. Issues relating to whistleblowing and disciplinary policies are two examples. And there may be others, as well. The laws vary by country. To make the most out of the relationship they recommend taking time to listen to what the works council
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Jon Rawlson on UPIC Audits [Podcast]
10/04/2025 Duration: 12minBy Adam Turteltaub An audit by a Unified Program Integrity Contractor auditor, better known as a UPIC audit, can be a very scary thing. Providers are often shocked and even indignant to receive a letter notifying them of the audit and alleging fraud. Jon Rawlson (LinkedIn), President & Founder of Armory Hill Advocates, reminds us that the audit was likely not triggered by an allegation but by an algorithm catching outlier events such as a provider processing claims outside of their normal daily work, utilizing a DME, a skin substitute or some other expensive item that is outside the norm. Once you have calmed down after reviewing the letter, he advises acting immediately but calmly. Begin reviewing the documents you have been providing the Medicare program and bring in whatever help you need. And, don’t forget you have a five step appeal process that enables you to prove your innocence. But, be mindful of the timeline the government gives. The consequences can be grave if you miss a deadline. Listen in
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Janine Fadul on Compliance & Storytelling [Podcast]
08/04/2025 Duration: 15minBy Adam Turteltaub As the sun set, the chief compliance officer stared out the window, wondering how she would communicate with her workforce in a way that they would understand. As much as she looked, the answer wasn’t outside in the skies turning from blue to black. She wasn’t finding it under the white LEDs in the ceiling above her desk, either. Feeling a bit desperate, and a little bit bored, she decided to walk the halls to see if perhaps the answers were there. She got all of ten feet before a colleague stopped her, eyes open wide and voice a little breathless, to tell her about an incident discovered and resolved. As she listened to him speak, she realized the answer was right there in front of her in the power of storytelling. Janine Fadul, Compliance and Privacy officer at GW Medicine, learned long ago to focus on the story she was trying to tell people, not just the facts. By following the elements of storytelling, she explains, you can grab people’s interest, keep it, and help them understand w
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CJ Wolf on Healthcare ICPGs [Podcast]
03/04/2025 Duration: 07minBy Adam Turteltaub In addition to releasing its General Compliance Program Guidance, the OIG at HHS announced plans to publish a series of Industry Segment-Specific Compliance Program Guidances (ICPG). The first of these, addressing nursing facilities, was released in November 2024. As CJ Wolf, Professor in healthcare Administration at BYU Idaho explains in this podcast, the first ICPG is instructive both for skilled nursing facilities (SNFs) and those looking to anticipate what will be coming in future ICPGs. Currently, three more are expected to be published in 2025: Medicare Advantage, hospital and clinical laboratories. Two additional ICPGs – pharmaceutical manufacturers and hospice – are also planned, but with a publication date as yet to be determined. There are several notable elements to the SNF ICPG. First, it interlinks compliance, quality of care and quality of life for patients. Second, there is an entire supplement focused on reimbursement, raising the scrutiny level of billing compliance. It
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Sevda Huseynova on Compliance Challenges in State Owned Enterprises [Podcast]
01/04/2025 Duration: 10minBy Adam Turteltaub Sevda Huseynova is the Ethics and Compliance Officer for SOCAR Midstream, a state-owned enterprise (SOE) in Azerbaijan. The company manages the oil and gas export pipelines of the country. If you think working for an SOE means you don’t have to worry about compliance, she warns you to think again. SOEs still faces risk in a wide range of areas including anticorruption, sanctions, third parties and more. Investors want to ensure that the company operates up to global standards, which isn’t always easy since compliance is relatively new in Azerbaijan. SOCAR midstream is up to the task, though, she reports. The company seeks to comply with local laws as well as international standards such as those of the OECD and the UN Convention on Corruption. To meet its goals, the compliance program is based on the seven elements approach found in most compliance programs and has three tiers addressing prevention, detection and corrective actions. She advises others working in SOEs to embrace five k
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Krista Muszak and Angela Smart on Program Effectiveness [Podcast]
27/03/2025 Duration: 15minBy Adam Turteltaub KISS takes on a new meaning in this podcast: Keep it Streamlined & Strategic. Keeping it streamlined and strategic is also the topic of a session at the 2025 HCCA Compliance Institute that will be led by Krista Muszak, Senior Manager, Process Optimization at Pfizer and Angela Smart, Senior Compliance and Ethics Partner, Intermountain Healthcare. Specifically. they’ll be applying this new take on KISS to the topic of program effectiveness. So how does it work? How do we keep our programs streamlined and strategic? First, we avoid scope creep and remain focused. That, they explain, begins with having and continuously referring back to a program charter that keeps you and everyone else involved from pursuing all the tangential issues that could derail your efforts. Second, they advise following the PDCA formula: Plan, Do, Check and Act. Third is conducting a root cause analysis that helps you understand not what happened but why. It will keep you thinking strategically and not just abou
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Juan Ignazio Paillás on Setting Compliance Goals for Your Business People [Podcast]
25/03/2025 Duration: 10minBy Adam Turteltaub Business people are given all kinds of goals for revenues, profitability, efficiency and more. For compliance, though, not so often. Many organizations struggle with how to set compliance goals, or even if they should set them. Madrid-based, Juan Ignacio Paillás, Head of Global Compliance Business Sectors for Merck KGaA, Darmstadt, Germany, explains how it should be done. First, he advises, understand the context in which you are working, particularly about how your organizations manages objectives. For example, some organizations embrace very rigid goals, while others take a more flexible approach. When approaching management and the business unit about setting objectives, he cautions that you should expect pushback. To counter it, remind them this is about taking the company’s values and turning them into concrete, measurable behaviors. It is also an exercise in setting priorities within compliance efforts to have the greatest impact on the organization and its performance. As you go
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Alec Burlakoff on Preventing Fraud [Podcast]
20/03/2025 Duration: 16minBy Adam Turteltaub Healthcare is often rife with fraud, and organizations struggle to prevent it. To gain a different perspective on how to prevent wrongdoing, we spoke with Alec Burlakoff, a convicted fraudster from Insys Pharmaceuticals who now leads Limitless! Consulting. To prevent fraud, he recommends seriously looking at the incentives program in your organization, especially if there are individuals whose commissions may make up more than half of their compensation. Such high rates of reward, he warns, provide serious temptation to skirt, or outright disregard, the rules. Look also at the messages that lucrative incentive programs send to others in the organization. Individuals who are inclined to do the right thing may find themselves envying those they see breaking the rules and getting rewarded. It can cause them to emulate the bad behavior that they see. Better, he advises, is to seek ways to reward people who do things the right way and build sales for the long term. When it comes to discipl
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Juliette Gust on Auditing Your Hotline and Case Management Program [Podcast]
18/03/2025 Duration: 14minBy Adam Turteltaub Are your helpline calls being responded to properly? Are the investigations proceeding expeditiously and properly? To find out, it’s good to do an audit periodically. Before you can begin, though, you need to determine if there is enough available data for an audit, cautions Juliette Gust, President of Ethics Suite, and author of the chapter “Auditing the Confidential Reporting Hotline and Case Management Program Effectives” in the new edition of The Complete Compliance and Ethics Manual. Many compliance programs still do not have formal processes in place, and for them, it’s best to start with a gap analysis. If you do have data, look at how you are tracking both the allegations and the work being doing as a result. How quickly are allegations being reviewed? Is someone letting the reporter know that their allegation has been received and is being acted on? How are you safeguarding the data, including being sensitive to the potential need for attorney-client privilege? Spend time, too,
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Kevin Muhlendorf on the SEC’s Reach Beyond Publicly-Traded Companies [Podcast]
13/03/2025 Duration: 15minBy Adam Turteltaub Think you don’t have to worry about the SEC because you’re at a private company or a non-profit? Think again says, Kevin Muhlendorf, attorney at Wiley Rein. You may still end up in the Commission’s crosshairs. He warns that the SEC’s power of investigations expands far and wide, and just being a supplier to a publicly-traded company may lead them to focus on your business. If a private company is acquired by a public one or makes even a non-public offering, there is risk of fraud and SEC action. Lie to an accounting firm and the SEC may become involved. And don’t forget about the risk of parallel investigations involving multiple enforcement authorities. Another risk area is shadow trading. Let’s say your hospital is a part of a clinical trial, and an employee sees it is going well. If that employee decides to short the stock of the drug’s competitor, that could be an issue that falls under the SEC. So what should you do? Keep an eye out for these risks and pay attention to recent enf
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Jill Swain and Dawn Wood on Compliance During Business Transformations [Podcast]
11/03/2025 Duration: 15minBy Adam Turteltaub Business transformations can be times both of risk and opportunity for compliance programs. Employees, struggling to understand the changes around them and feeling stressed, may opt to do the wrong or at least ill-advised things. By the same token, transformations provide an opportunity for compliance teams to change their roles within the organization and redefine the value that they bring. Jill Swain, Global Ethics Manager and Dawn Wood, Engagement, Training and Programme Manager at Rolls-Royce went through a major business transformation and will be sharing their insights from that experience in a session at the 2025 SCCE European Compliance & Ethics Institute. In this podcast they share an abbreviated version of the journey and lessons taken from it. Rolls-Royce, as it transformed itself, wanted employees to understand that ethics and compliance are a part of “winning right” and helping the companies achieve its goals. The compliance teams met the challenge by embarking on several i
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Gwen Hassan, Patrick Henz and Anthony Rhem on the Compliance and Ethics Risks of AI [Podcast]
06/03/2025 Duration: 14minBy Adam Turteltaub Oh, Artificial Intelligence. So much promise, and so much risk. What’s a compliance and ethics professional to do? Start by listening to this podcast about the chapter “Managing the Ethics and Compliance Risks of Artificial Intelligence” in the 2025 edition of The Complete Compliance & Ethics Manual. We spoke with the article’s co-authors, Gwen Hassan (chief compliance officer at Unisys), Dr. Anthony J. Rhem (CEO and principal consultant at A.J. Rhem & Associates), and Patrick Henz (special advisor for compliance, Latin America, for Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Americas). They explain that when we speak of AI we aren’t talking about one technology but a wide range of them. Generative Ai may be getting the most attention but there is also natural language processing, neural networks, expert systems, machine learning and many more. As a result, compliance teams need to understand what form of AI is being used at their organization. When it comes to legal and regulatory frameworks to serve
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Erica Wikman and David Barr on Encouraging a Speak-Up Culture [Podcast]
04/03/2025 Duration: 19minBy Adam Turteltaub Sometimes you make a few technical changes to a compliance program because a law or regulation has changed. Autoliv didn’t want to do that and just meet technical requirement of the EU Whistleblower Directive. They wanted to use it as an opportunity to assess what they were doing to encourage employee reporting, whether it was working, and to improve support for people speaking up. Erica Wikman, Vice President, Corporate Compliance, Autoliv and David Barr (LinkedIn), co-founder of Campbell Barr, tells us in this podcast that they shared a vision of moving away from just whistleblowing. Research showed it can have negative connotations. In addition, whistleblowing tended to be interpreted narrowly, with tremendous variations by region. They also found a fear of either retaliation or that nothing would be done. So, the Autoliv compliance team began to think more broadly and encourage people not just to speak up when they saw a potential compliance issue but also when they saw something p
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Chris Kruse on Data Retention and Document Holds [Podcast]
27/02/2025 Duration: 10minBy Adam Turteltaub So the IT folk can’t wait for your business people to delete those old documents, meantime, the business people want to hold onto them because they never know when they might need that info again. Then, all of a sudden there’s a legal issue and a hold is in place. Instantly the game changes. Chris Kruse, Executive Vice President & Advisor at CasePoint explains that when a legal hold is placed several things need to happen: Employees with relevant need to be identified They need to be placed on notice of the obligation to preserve any relevant information. They need to be instructed on how to proceed going forward The custodians of the data need to acknowledge that they have been notified and understand their obligations Individuals with the data need to be reminded that if they create new data it also needs to be retained Securing all the documents and data can be difficult for several reasons. These range from the simple, such as an employee who doesn’t read the email with th