The Gist

On The Gist, former military interrogator Lena Sisco on deception detection. Her book is called You’re Lying: Secrets From an Expert Military Interrogator to Spot the Lies and Get to the Truth. For the Spiel, a few thoughts on the shooting in Orlando.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, Dave Zirin calls in from Muhammad Ali’s funeral procession in Louisville. Zirin is sports editor at The Nation, host of the Edge of Sports podcast, and author of the Muhammad Ali Handbook. For the Spiel, questioning the assumptions in the Stanford rape case.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, actor Michael C. Bernardi is Mordcha the Innkeeper in Fiddler On The Roof, now on Broadway. His father, Herschel Bernardi, was the third man to play Tevye in the musical. For the Spiel, who will be remembered with as much veneration as Muhammad Ali?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, former Corey Pegues wanted to stop being a drug runner in his Queens neighborhood. So he enlisted in the military and joined the top brass of the NYPD. His new book is Once a Cop: The Street, the Law, Two Worlds, One Man. For the Spiel, pretty much a direct appeal for angry emails from Bernie Sanders supporters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, a postcard with Devin Leonard on the origins of the phrase “going postal.” Leonard’s new book is Neither Snow Nor Rain: A History of the United States Postal Service. Plus, Stephen Teret on smart guns. For the Spiel, Hillary Clinton’s cinch of a clinched nomination.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, Chuck Klosterman imagines how time erodes common ideas, like what counts as a great American novel and how we decide who’s smart. His new book is But What If We’re Wrong? For the Spiel, tyrants and their cats.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, comedian and musician Tim Heidecker. He attracted a cult following with Adult Swim television hits such as Decker and Tim & Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! Some of the same deadpan observations can be heard in his music. Heidecker’s first solo album is In Glendale. For the Spiel, elections make us all relativists.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, filmmaker James Solomon discusses his documentary The Witness, which reinvestigates the death of Kitty Genovese—whose reported murder became emblematic of New York City indifference. In the film, Kitty’s brother Bill goes on a quest to figure out what really happened and finds little truth in the earliest newspaper accounts. For the Spiel, Siri runs away with your radio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, 2015 MacArthur fellow Matthew Desmond talks about moving into a trailer park to document life in poverty and what he calls an eviction epidemic. Desmond is the author of Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City. For the Spiel, revisiting Ghostbusters—that is, revisiting the movie that’s revisiting Ghostbusters.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, for our game “Is That Bulls—t?” we ask Maria Konnikova of the New Yorker if we’re any better off drinking skim milk. Konnikova is the author of The Confidence Game. For the Spiel, do we really have to talk about the gorilla?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, comedy writer Paul Scheer explains the thinking behind his new series, Filthy Preppy Teen$, available on Fullscreen. For the Spiel, the lobstar of the antentwig. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, New Yorker writer James Surowiecki on breaking up the banks, and New York Sen. Chuck Schumer discusses his bill to open up the Saudi Arabian government to lawsuits from victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. For the Spiel, taking the romance out of bygone factory jobs.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, Moby talks about growing up poor in Connecticut and his family ties to Herman Melville. He has just published Porcelain: A Memoir. For the Spiel, we return to the Trump Anxiety Hotline.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper reflects on his state’s social experiment legalizing marijuana. He is the author of the book The Opposite of Woe: My Life in Beer and Politics. For the Spiel, a closer look at what policy experts think of Donald Trump’s plans.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, Ivan Oransky argues that when it comes to faulty claims, peer-review is a first defense, not an airtight one. He’s the vice president and global editorial director of MedPage Today. For the Spiel, a breakdown of that movie cliché of the workaholic dad who reconnects with his kids.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, storyteller Matthew Dicks spills his secret for juggling six different jobs—purposeful showers, lots of oatmeal, and no mental idling. For the Spiel, Bernie Sanders supporters are sore losers, but who can blame them? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, a refresher course on the Whig Party with the American History Guys: professors Peter Onuf, Ed Ayers, and Brian Balogh. They host the BackStory podcast. For the Spiel, tuning in to ISIS news without freaking out.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, comic Dan Soder of Showtime television drama Billions on finding his killer closing joke—and letting it go. His new hourlong standup special premieres May 21 on Comedy Central. For the Spiel, a new soundtrack for the primary election.  Today’s sponsor: Blue Apron. For less than $10 per meal, Blue Apron delivers right to your door everything you need to create a home-cooked meal. Visit BlueApron.com/gist to get your first two meals free. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, the New Yorker’s James Surowiecki on businesses taking up the vanguard of LGBTQ rights—and why it might be problematic for conservatives and liberals alike. For the Spiel, a theory: We live in overcontextualized times.   Today’s sponsor: Hiscox Small Business Insurance. Get customized insurance for your business right now. Go to Hiscox.com to learn more and to get a free quote.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On The Gist, Tianna Gaines-Turner recounts her experience testifying before Congress on life for the working poor. She’s featured in the short film, A Hug From Paul Ryan, part of a new series from AMC Networks’ SundanceNow Doc Club. For the Spiel, the transformative power of personal experience when it comes to lawmakers’ views on LGBT rights and mental illness.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices